Turf Master Tires with Chains

[WHwest8597 85]

I bought new Carsile Turf Master tires this summer and went to put chains on to plow and see that the chains hit the bracket for the gas tank.  I have a 1996 314-8.  Does any have this problem.  do I need to go to a narrow size tire?

[doc724 925]

I have a similar problem.  Last year I had the stock Dico 23x9.5-12 on my 1998 314-8.  No problem with chains.  This year I put Kenda 23x9.5-12 on my 1996 416H-big problem.  The chains hit the gas tank bracket on the right and the pivot points for the brake on the left.  So I am going without chains (fingers crossed) and lots of weight this year.  The Kenda tires put more rubber on the road surface than the Dico tires

 

There are three potential fixes that I know of;  1.  Buy a cheapie spacer at Autozone or similar.  The come in 1/4 inch and 5/15 inch thickness.  Not an elegant solution but it works.  2.  Get a set of wheels from a 1970's vintage tractor.  The offset is different and will push out the tires away from the bracket.  As a consequence it will make the rear track wider.  3.  Get a narrower tire (or a narrower profile tire of the same size).

 

 

[JERSEYHAWG / Glenn 4,499]

I run stock tire sizes. thats one reason why. I like bigger meat on the rigs. BUT want to avoid problems as your experiencing. spacers sound like the best / easy solution.

 

Glenn

[WHwest8597 85]

I still haven't decided how I'm going to fix the problem I posted above.  What tires have others used as replacements.  I have a gravel driveway that goes up hill so I will need chains.  I have another  set of rims and could get a set of 8.5 wide or go with spacers.  Any suggestions? 

[Tankman 3,523]

Offsets on the rims, a pain. Picked up a like new pair of rear tires from a Simplicity. Too close to the tank, frame, all.

 

Take a peek-a-boo at Xtreme's spacers.  http://xtrememotorworks.com/Parts%20Catalog/Cub%20Cadet%20Parts%20Dual%20Wheel%20Spacers.htm

Available in several heights (thicknesses).

 

 

Edited January 21, 2016 by Tankman

[Sparky-(Admin) 23,166]

Did you upsize the tires when you bought em? If not they should clear the brackets, usually the tire height is different between tire brands but I've never heard of width being much different between brands. Are your hubs where they should be or have they slid in on the axles?

Pictures?

Mike...........

[RedRanger 1,469]

How much space do you need to make up in order to clear the tank?

I think I have a brand new pair of spacers that may fit.

1/2" thick I believe.

I can check them out tonight?

 

I bought them for a tractor for the same reason, but ended up not using chains, so didn't use them.

 

 

[WHwest8597 85]

The tires are 23x9.5x12.  I will have to check and see if the hubs have moved at all.

[TDF5G 2,073]

You may have to downsize to a 23X8.50.

[Martin 2,133]

the mid nineties tractors had the rear wheel offset different to the older tractors on the 12 x7 wheels. They are tight enough to cause that problem with chains. I dont know why they changed offset, but one way out would be to get earlier rear wheels. Not sure when they changed them, but any of the 60s and up to and including black hood c series would be the ticket. Tape measure on candidate wheels would confirm if you are getting the earlier offset.

[shallowwatersailor 3,214]

My 312A has a spacer on one side from the factory to clear chains (can't say for sure) I think on the left. This model uses 22x9.50-12 instead of the more prevalent 23x8.50-12 tires. The difference in tires was for clearance purposes on the Eaton 7 transaxle.

[WHwest8597 85]

I bought a set of spacers but will need some longer bolts.  Does anyone have the size of bolt that was used for the hubs.

[woodchuckfarmer 333]

Wheel studs are 7/16 fine thread.--Wayne

 

[DennisThornton 4,771]

On 1/20/2016 at 6:02 PM, Martin said:

the mid nineties tractors had the rear wheel offset different to the older tractors on the 12 x7 wheels. They are tight enough to cause that problem with chains. I dont know why they changed offset, but one way out would be to get earlier rear wheels. Not sure when they changed them, but any of the 60s and up to and including black hood c series would be the ticket. Tape measure on candidate wheels would confirm if you are getting the earlier offset.

 

Great info and a new note for me!  

Thanks!

[WVHillbilly520H 10,376]

Not trying to tell you how to do things but maybe if the chains were not on inside out (cross bar end links "J" should be facing out not in towards the tires as in your picture...but using chains 30+ years on equipment and vechicles...check out the chains on my 520H

Edited January 24, 2016 by WVHillbilly520H
better picture