Al C. 1,405 #1 Posted October 2, 2015 Does anyone know the difference between "long frame" and "short frame" Wheel Horses? If so, is the 1067 a long or short frame? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DennisThornton 4,769 #2 Posted October 2, 2015 From my notes gathered from folks who know!Long frames 45.5"Short frames 41.25"Mid Frames 43" 1972 to 1975 Wheel Horse 8 horse powered models had a wheel base of 43 inches "A short frame will have a wheel base of 41-1/4 inches and a long frame has a wheel base of 45-1/2 inches. The 1972 to 1975 Wheel Horse 8 horse powered models had a wheel base of 43 inches but the C-series and 300 series 8 hp models were long frames . Another way to tell is by horse power , any Wheel Horse model with 10 hp or more has a long frame starting from the 1966 model 1056 . In 1969 the last short frame model was built , the Workhorse 700 had a 7 hp horziontal shaft Tecumseh engine and three speed transmission . Any old round hood will be a short frame and all but one six speed model was a long frame (the 1967 model 867 was a short frame)"The first long framed Wheel Horse models came out in 1966.Here is a list of short frame Wheel Horses.1961 - 7011962 - 502, 552, 702, Lawn Ranger1963 - 603, 633, 653, 753, Lawn Ranger1964 - 604, 654, 704, 754, 854, 1045, Lawn Ranger1965 - 605, 655, 855, 875, 1075, 1055, Lawn Ranger1966 - 606, 656, 856, 876, Lawn Ranger1967 - 607, 657, 857, 867, Lawn Ranger1968 - Commando 6, Commando 8, '500' SPECIAL, Lawn Ranger1969 - WORKHORSE 700Other tractors like the 1974 and 1975 model B-80 were considered a mid frame. 9 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedRanger 1,468 #3 Posted October 2, 2015 I assume the purpose of long frames was to move the weight balance further forward and to allow for larger mowing decks???? The larger big block engines probably need a bit more space as well.Just my guess. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 46,890 #4 Posted October 2, 2015 and to move the heat a little farther away from the family jewels..... 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Al C. 1,405 #5 Posted October 2, 2015 Appreciate the information! Thanks much! One additional question. I have a 1067 (10hp Kohler) and SK-486 (16hp Kohler). Both are in great shape (start right up, no leaks, no smoke) with about 1,000 hours each on the original engines. During the summer I run them both about an hour a month. My question, is what is the best way to maintain the engines during the winter? In the past I have run them about 15 minutes a month through the winter. Not sure if this is the best solution. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmsgaffer 2,043 #6 Posted October 2, 2015 (edited) 15 minutes is not enough to get the engines warm, so it will not heat up the oil enough to evaporate and expel the fuel and water that has washed down past the cylinder. I would say that is doing more harm than good.My dad didn't do anything to his engine over the winter, but it was stored in a minimally climate controlled garage and it lasted a LONG time.If you don't use any of them in the winter I would shut off the fuel line, run them dry and pull the battery. I also fog them, but many do not and don't have issues. Edited October 2, 2015 by bmsgaffer 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MalMac 1,328 #7 Posted October 3, 2015 Yep like said run them dry. I empty the fuel tanks, add just a little seafoam then start them. Let them run till they run the fuel line dry . I don't leave any of that junk gas in them. Mine sit in a unheated barn so I pull batteries and bring into the basement and charge them occasionally. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 46,890 #8 Posted October 3, 2015 @Al C.Love that 1067 Al, looks much better than mine but someday I am going to make mine look like yours. If you don't mind I will be needing lots of pics to see what I am missing and how it is supposed to look! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Al C. 1,405 #9 Posted October 3, 2015 I'll be glad to help with your restoration. I have all the manuals and parts lists for both models. Pics are easy. Good luck! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 51,909 #10 Posted October 3, 2015 Al, Is the document in post # 1 a part of our downloads? I would be interested in reading more of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KC9KAS 4,741 #11 Posted October 3, 2015 @Al C. you have a couple of nice looking Wheel Horse tractors. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Al C. 1,405 #12 Posted October 4, 2015 Here is the complete document from post#1. Not sure if it is in the download library. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 46,890 #13 Posted October 4, 2015 (edited) Cool Al....Thanks ....if it's not there is should be. .. Edited October 4, 2015 by WHX5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PetesPonies1 117 #14 Posted November 30, 2021 On 10/2/2015 at 7:45 AM, DennisThornton said: From my notes gathered from folks who know! Long frames 45.5" Short frames 41.25" Mid Frames 43" 1972 to 1975 Wheel Horse 8 horse powered models had a wheel base of 43 inches "A short frame will have a wheel base of 41-1/4 inches and a long frame has a wheel base of 45-1/2 inches. The 1972 to 1975 Wheel Horse 8 horse powered models had a wheel base of 43 inches but the C-series and 300 series 8 hp models were long frames . Another way to tell is by horse power , any Wheel Horse model with 10 hp or more has a long frame starting from the 1966 model 1056 . In 1969 the last short frame model was built , the Workhorse 700 had a 7 hp horziontal shaft Tecumseh engine and three speed transmission . Any old round hood will be a short frame and all but one six speed model was a long frame (the 1967 model 867 was a short frame)" The first long framed Wheel Horse models came out in 1966. Here is a list of short frame Wheel Horses. 1961 - 701 1962 - 502, 552, 702, Lawn Ranger 1963 - 603, 633, 653, 753, Lawn Ranger 1964 - 604, 654, 704, 754, 854, 1045, Lawn Ranger 1965 - 605, 655, 855, 875, 1075, 1055, Lawn Ranger 1966 - 606, 656, 856, 876, Lawn Ranger 1967 - 607, 657, 857, 867, Lawn Ranger 1968 - Commando 6, Commando 8, '500' SPECIAL, Lawn Ranger 1969 - WORKHORSE 700 Other tractors like the 1974 and 1975 model B-80 were considered a mid frame. Isn't the 877 missing from this list? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
