HorseFixer 2,013 #1 Posted November 21, 2008 A Friend of mine who has a couple WH tractors told me a few days ago about an old WH tractor he had just seen in the Kalamazoo Area at a WH dealer out in the sticks. He said it was a 1957 And it was in mint condition and looks like it came right off the show room floor and had never been used! How many times have we all heard that one before? Not a bad looking tractor but he was a few years off on the model Well Since MJ had a Doctors appointment near there today I thought I would give it a look see after her appt. Below is the misrepresented Tractor Naturally I had to set the gent straight on the model and year . While at this guys Toro Dealership he did have broadband so I was able to give him a tour of Red Square. He was impressed with the picture gallery! So what year is this tractor? And what has been tampered with on it and is not right? MJ was shocked that a Toro Dealer didnt even know what he had, and all the things that I pointed out that was wrong with the resoration. Here are the pics! How many things can you find that are not factory???? Or make for a crappy restoration? The best thing to do is save them all to a folder and use microsoft picture and fax viewer and you can zoom in on the details! THERE WAS NO PRICE TAG, BUT HE WAS ASKING!! $ 3,200.00 :imstupid: I told him I would sell him mine for $2500.00 And Ticksters Lever Steer for $15,000.00 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rollerman 290 #2 Posted November 21, 2008 Duke looks like a 1960 Suburban 400. Everything "looks" correct other than the slapped on throttle cable. Do you have a better pic of the dash...I see it looks like it was set up high away from kids. Also how about a closeup on that price tag. :hide: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pond195520032003 27 #3 Posted November 21, 2008 Im with Stephen on this one, looks like a 60 - 400! definitly get a close up of the Tag other than the throttle placement, he kind of went a little overboard on the weld job for the right axle tube Oh yea, the spinner knob isent correct :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KyBlue 655 #4 Posted November 22, 2008 Are those the right foot rests?? And its missing a bolt holding the rear tire on.. only 4 there.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kpinnc 15,277 #5 Posted November 22, 2008 Carb, exhaust pipe, and the previous mentions? Kevin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DMESS 24 #6 Posted November 22, 2008 Other than the funky throttle, I don't see anything else obnoxiously wrong here. The exhaust is a bit shorter than it would have been originally and obviously the drive belt/mower belt/exhaust shields are missing. The foot rests ARE a Wheel horse item although the right one is upside down LOL. Nice original rubber and it has the accessory drawbar hitch that was handy due to the fact that the '60 mower used the slot hitch as a lift mechanism. The recoil is a later replacement, but that is very common and certainly not a big deal. At least it HAS one. Most are missing. I don't see any wheel bolts missing LOL. Kevin, what are you seeing with the carb that I am missing? Looks like a Carter N or a Kohler carb to me? As for the price: DREAM ON! :hide: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
linen beige 15 #7 Posted November 22, 2008 Are those the right foot rests?? And its missing a bolt holding the rear tire on.. only 4 there.. Those are the right foot rests, only the right one is on upside down and they shouldn't have the grit paper coverings on them. The hubs only have spaces for three lug bolts, and that's all that are in them. The steering wheel spinner is not correct. The throttle is not correct. The exhaust pipe is not long enough to reach the front so it is lacking the heat shield. No belt guards. The nut on the seat pan bolt should be square. This model did not use the thumbscrews to hold on the hood. The carb looks just like the original one on my 400. So does the air cleaner. Don't see many of the AH-60 auxiliary hitches! (I have two). The recoil is a replacement stamped one from later stock, not the original Fairbanks-Morse cast aluminum one. No decals. Pitiful paint job. Wheel Horse is not painted beige on front of hood. I'm not sure, but I don't think the throttle cable should run down through the frame and back up to get to the governor arm. The fenders used in '60 didn't have the extra holes that were used to mount them to the later Lawn Rangers. Probably a whole lot more details I'm missing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HorseFixer 2,013 #8 Posted November 24, 2008 Guys you did good! Jim very good! Also If you notice also there is a Sawed hole on the support beneath where the throttle cable goes thru in Pic # 2 If you notice the wheels had chloride in them by the stains on the rims! why a guy wouldn't demount the rims and blast and repaint is beyond me! :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
linen beige 15 #9 Posted November 24, 2008 Guys you did good! Jim very good! Also If you notice also there is a Sawed hole on the support beneath where the throttle cable goes thru in Pic # 2 If you notice the wheels had chloride in them by the stains on the rims! why a guy wouldn't demount the rims and blast and repaint is beyond me! By "sawed hole" I guess you mean the slit in the right side of the hood stand? I noticed it looks like the hood stand has been made from two parts, with a rough weld line a cross it, but I didn't notice the slit! Did he run out of welder before he finished this seam? I noticed the stained rims, but figured it was just leakage, or maybe the old chloride leaching through the paint. That is some pretty nasty stuff and can be hard to neutralize. From the looks of the rest of the body work I don't think any of this machine has seen more than a scuff or wire brushing and a respray. With some pretty heavy spray at that. But for all the flaws this would be a good one to do a proper restoration on. That's assuming the transmission is good on the inside. That poorly welded axle tube makes me wonder. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HorseFixer 2,013 #10 Posted November 25, 2008 Yeah thats what I meant I guess the correct word would be "SLICE" It amazes me why guys just don't take it to the next level and do a little research take their time a bit, their efforts would be that much more rewarding! :hide: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
linen beige 15 #11 Posted December 8, 2008 Guys I'm really slippin'. It should be obvious to us all and should have screamed at me, THE WHEELS AND SEAT SHOULD NOT BE WHITE!!! I think Wheel Horse had a name for their color, let's see, what was it, oh yeah, Linen Beige! :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HorseFixer 2,013 #12 Posted December 8, 2008 Guys I'm really slippin'. It should be obvious to us all and should have screamed at me, THE WHEELS AND SEAT SHOULD NOT BE WHITE!!! I think Wheel Horse had a name for their color, let's see, what was it, oh yeah, Linen Beige! Jim how many damn nights have you been layin in bed at night thinking about that? What color did ya say that was again? :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michael Bullington 5 #13 Posted December 9, 2008 i guess it safe to say...it dont have to worry about moving for a while :hide: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites