zanepetty 117 #1 Posted December 3, 2014 (edited) Hey all. Hope everyone is doing well. I haven't been on here in a while. Been very busy and my wheel horse project got pushed to the wayside. But I'm going to try to do some work on her this week! Does anyone have good info on installing the crank? That, the piston, rings and connecting rod are all I lack on the engine. Also what do you guys torque the head bolts and rod bolts to? Thanks so much! Edited December 3, 2014 by zanepetty Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldredrider 2,547 #2 Posted December 3, 2014 My best advice is to download the Kohler service manual. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rmaynard 14,932 #3 Posted December 3, 2014 As Paul said, everything is covered in the Kohler manual. Just having the torque values is not enough. The head bolts have to be tightened in a certain pattern. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chazm 412 #4 Posted December 3, 2014 Welcome back Zane.. Like the others said down load the manual... read it several times... print of the torques & HB sequence to have out in the shop. Also look at the conn rod install,I think its needs installed a certain way.. Let us know if you have ??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rmaynard 14,932 #5 Posted December 3, 2014 The connecting rod and cap should have aligning marks. The cap also has an oil hole. The oil hole must always be oriented toward the camshaft. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zanepetty 117 #6 Posted December 4, 2014 Ok thanks. I'll find the correct manual. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rmaynard 14,932 #7 Posted December 4, 2014 Ok thanks. I'll find the correct manual. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zanepetty 117 #8 Posted December 4, 2014 Thanks a lot. I'm not sure what it's talking about when it Says shims and spacers on the crank shaft. I don't remember taking those off. Am I forgetting something? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rmaynard 14,932 #9 Posted December 4, 2014 (edited) In your pack of gaskets, you will usually get 1 bearing plate gasket and about 5 shims. Shims look like the gasket, but are thinner. When you assemble the engine, you put in the gasket and a couple of shims, then check the side to side movement (end play) of the crankshaft. If it is too much, you remove a shim, if it is too little, you add a shim. Edit: Shim info is on page 12.10 of the latest Kohler manual. Edited December 5, 2014 by rmaynard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zanepetty 117 #10 Posted December 5, 2014 Ok Bob. Thanks. I guess I'll start with two shims plus my regular gasket? Does that sound good? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rmaynard 14,932 #11 Posted December 5, 2014 That's a good starting point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zanepetty 117 #12 Posted December 5, 2014 My bearing plate is cracked as well. Do you have any laying around I could buy? I posted a. Add in the wanted section. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rmaynard 14,932 #13 Posted December 5, 2014 I don't have one, but there are several on eBay. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zanepetty 117 #14 Posted December 5, 2014 I got screwed on the last one on eBay. I figured I'd post here instead. I'm Leary if it now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lagersolut 613 #15 Posted December 6, 2014 I got screwed on the last one on eBay. I figured I'd post here instead. I'm Leary if it now. I hope you contacted the seller and put it back in his/her mailbox - I've only gotten 1 or 2 bad or broken things on the bay but they're at the post office next day heading back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slammer302 2,154 #16 Posted December 6, 2014 I think I have one Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gregg'shorses 77 #17 Posted December 6, 2014 I got screwed on the last one on eBay. I figured I'd post here instead. I'm Leary if it now. how is this ...http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Cub-Cadet-IH-Original-Tractor-Kohler-K161-7hp-Engine-Bearing-Plate-/201190691341?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ed7e6520d Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zanepetty 117 #18 Posted December 10, 2014 I ordered one from joes outdoor power this time. We'll see how it goes. Thanks for the replies. Does anyone know the part number for the crank seal in the bearing plate? I was going to try to go to Napa to find one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rmaynard 14,932 #19 Posted December 10, 2014 Should be one in the gasket kit. But if not, it's a Kohler X-583-1-S, NAPA SME X5831S. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zanepetty 117 #20 Posted December 10, 2014 Thanks bob. I put the seal in the cracked plate so I don't want to risk taking it out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rmaynard 14,932 #21 Posted December 10, 2014 I understand. In my opinion, NAPA seals are better than Toro seals anyway. They run about $6 bucks and change from my NAPA store. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zanepetty 117 #22 Posted December 11, 2014 I'll be looking today. Thanks for the info,bob. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zanepetty 117 #23 Posted December 11, 2014 My Napa store is saying that the crank seal number isn't crossing over? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rmaynard 14,932 #24 Posted December 11, 2014 Show them this. http://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/CatalogItemDetail.aspx/Engine-Oil-Seal-Kohler/_/R-SMEX5831S_0006432306 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zanepetty 117 #25 Posted December 11, 2014 He magically found it now. Go figure. I appreciate it!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
