Gas Additive ?

[snowhound 106]

A co-worker and I were talking about how bad todays gas is and when I asked him what additive he used he said "ATF about 2 oz. per gallon"

 

He clames it works better than Sta-Bil or any other stabilizer.   Has anyone else heard of this or tried it?

 

Ed

[953 nut 60,406]

I do recall people using ATF as a "Top Oil" to clead up the carbon in the valve train years back, never did so myself.

 

   If you are talking about long term storage I would suggest you remove all of the gas from your tank, get some ethanol free gas in the tank and run it long enough to be sure the carb. has no more E-10 in it. If you want to use an additive SeaFoam is the best.

 

You can find out where to get ethanol free gas at buyrealgas.com, put in your Zip code and it will give you a list of stations in your area.

Edited December 21, 2013 by 953 nut

[speedyleedy 205]

I 've had the best luck with seafoam myself....

[cheesegrader 433]

Another vote for seafoam.

[flyovrcntry 115]

If your tank is metal a full tank will prevent moisture,therefore rust.

I was under the impression premium gas was ethanol free,is this not true ?

[timo4352 147]

Ever since I shelled out around 400 bucks for a real chain saw, I've been using Startron. Using it in all my small engines now, including the tractor. It's the only one I've heard of that eliminates ethanol problems. So far so good.

[fireman 1,022]

I second the Startron. Use it in everything. You also want to use a lead additive if your engine is older then like 1975. They need the lead for the lubricative properties.

[Ed Kennell 42,231]

I use  Marine grade Sta-Bil (the tan color, not red) In all my Mercury outboards,2 and 4 strokes, Brigs mowers, Kohler and Techy tractors, Honda pressure washer and log splitter, Poulon trimmers,  Onan generator,  and Yamaha 4 wheeler.   I have only plastic fuel tanks, so I drain or siphon all gas out. then  disconnect the fuel line from the tank and put it in a soup can  filled with 5oz of pure gas and 1oz of Sta-Bil.  For the 2 strokes, I also add 1oz of oil. Then start the engine and just before it runs out of fuel, spray ~ 3-4 seconds of fogging oil into each carb. I then pull the spark plugs and spray fogging oil into each cyl. for 3-4 seconds.    I have never had any problems using this treatment for long term storage. For short term storage ,less than 1 month, I just add the Sta-Bil as recommended by the Manufacturer.

[Jrblanke 918]

If your tank is metal a full tank will prevent moisture,therefore rust.

I was under the impression premium gas was ethanol free,is this not true ?

 

I believe it differs from state to state. In my state, 99% of gasoline contains some percentage of ethanol. There are very fiew stations that sell true ethanol free gas. There is a BP station here in Raleigh that advertises that it carries 89 octane, ethanol free gas. It is more expensive than premium but less expensive than diesel. Out of the 16 pumps at the station, only 1 pump has the ethanol free gas. For those of you in Raleigh, it is the BP station at the intersection of Duraleigh Rd and Glenwood Ave (next to chick fil a...yum). 

[MooneyM20F 4]

100LL aviation fuel. Has a very low lead count, does not sour in the tank. Smells good. Works great in air cooled engines, I also use Aeroshell aviation oil. I have seen what happens to air cooled aviation engines after running on oil intended for liquid cooled engines.

You can pick the 100LL fuel up at most airports.

[Anglo Traction 761]

100LL aviation fuel. Has a very low lead count, does not sour in the tank. Smells good. Works great in air cooled engines, I also use Aeroshell aviation oil. I have seen what happens to air cooled aviation engines after running on oil intended for liquid cooled engines.

You can pick the 100LL fuel up at most airports.

When you say low Lead count, do you know that there is over 1.2 grams of Tetraethyl Lead in each U.S Gallon of Avgas 100LL?.

[Forest Road 594]

All gas in NY and NJ has ethanol. Unless its marked E- free. Cant speak for the rest of the country .I purchase E-free at a marina in the summer and a snowmobile dealer in the winter. I probably use 20-30 gallons a year. So i dint mind the extra $1 per gallon too much.

As for additives I've been happy with Star-tron. It's been used in marine applications for many years.

I'm not a fan of Stabil because there have too many discussions that in my opinion has lead to confusion and aome arguments over which Stabil to use.

Yamaha also makes a product available through dealers. I've heard nothing but praise for it.

[MooneyM20F 4]

Yeah.....1.2... Depends where you get the info........ As I was saying, works great, smells great, won't sour

[Digger 66 3,488]

 

 

You can find out where to get ethanol free gas at buyrealgas.com, put in your Zip code and it will give you a list of stations in your area.

 

 

Another vote for Seafoam & here's a clickable link for getting non-oxygenated fuel > http://pure-gas.org/

Edited December 21, 2013 by Digger 66

[Anglo Traction 761]

Not sure if you have a similar fuel in U.S , but there is an Alkylate Fuel available in Europe called Aspen.
It is prohibitively expensive at the moment because of it's production method and low usage.
Despite the cost, it is good for 5 years in the tank/Carb and fuel lines. Perfect for Low Use equipment and Show Queens and has very low emissions .

 

There are several additives available here and of course we are only at the 5% Ethanol level at the moment.

I use Redex in the Fuel, purely as an 'Upper Cylinder Lubricant' and it also cleans out or prevents the carbon build up.

Had the Can for 20years now, still plenty left.    

[Buckshot 1 15]

 I use Seafoam and MMO.  .

[dbartlett1958 99]

Seafoam and TWC-3 two cycle oil at 2 ounces to 5 gallons of gas. I use my tractor a lot, so I don't worry about the ethanol free.

[rmaynard 16,376]

I don't use any additives in my gas. Have tried Seafoam, and Stabil. Neither have shown me any benefits when running, or when the gas is left in the carburetor over the winter. My current weatherization includes using ONLY ethanol-free gas during the spring, summer, and fall, then running the tanks dry before putting the tractors away for the winter.

 

Fortunately for me, I have found a station that sells only e-free gasoline. They are 48 miles round-trip from my house, so I take 5 five gallon cans with me and fill them up each time I go.

 

After a summer of ethanol related repairs to my leaf blowers, chain saw, and generator, I decided that I will only use ethanol free gas from here on out.

 

That is, as long as it is available, and the EPA doesn't shut down the suppliers.

[rick 257]

Gotta love that Blue Devil!  I add MMO to my 100LL AvGas.

[MooneyM20F 4]

I add a little Marvel too. Works great. I buy the MMO oil by the gallons. I run it in the oil an fuel of the plane I fly for a living, I suffered from stuck valves a few years ago. With the MMO, I have had over 1100hrs of trouble free operation. I have had many hrs of trouble free operation in my tractors as well. Ethanol is trash, if you have the ability to get a better fuel, do it.

[snowhound 106]

I do us Seafoam and Marvel but I hadn't heard of using ATV and was wondering if it was somewhat common knowledge that it could be used. 

Thanks for all the replys

A Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all

Ed

[userj8670 68]

Does anyone use any lead additive?

[userj8670 68]

I recently started using sea form but have yet to see any benefit

[Digger 66 3,488]

Does anyone use any lead additive?

 

I do in the snowblower , its a 1966 model & requires it for valve-seat longevity .

[userj8670 68]

I have heard yes and no