Do I need to replace a bearing

[608KEB 794]

When I was taking the seals out of my transmission I noticed that the torrington bearing was missing a little piece of the outside wall. I don't think I did this when removing the seals because i didn't see the missing piece. Do I need to replace this bearing? K.B.

[Trouty56 565]

Looks like it will eventually fail to me. Might be a good opportunity to open it up for a look see. Just replace both sides while you are in there.

[rmaynard 14,922]

I agree with Bob. Also, it looks like someone has been banging on the hitch pin. Hope you can get it out. If you are going to open the tranny, better start soaking that area with PB Blaster now.

[Martin 2,130]

i would replace it. otherwise you may regret it. if you did mistakenly hit it while removing the seal, ( looks like a screwdriver end to me) you cant really be sure if the cage is dragging on the axle, you could end up chewing the axle surface where the bearing runs over it, and then having to replace it later on down the road.

if it was like that, same deal, take care of it now rather than later......

[pfrederi 17,167]

From experience (expensive experience) I can tell you that when that needle bearing fails the needles can move up the axle shaft and take out the inner ball bearing (the infamous #1533 only available from Toro for over $80 ...each) the needle bearing you need is about $10....your choice.

[WH854 44]

From experience (expensive experience) I can tell you that when that needle bearing fails the needles can move up the axle shaft and take out the inner ball bearing (the infamous #1533 only available from Toro for over $80 ...each) the needle bearing you need is about $10....your choice.

P/N1533 is no longer available from Toro just checked

Chas

[608KEB 794]

Where can I get needle bearings? You guys are pretty observant... I was trying to get hitch pin shaft out, but it wouldn't budge!#@&!! I assume I probably damaged the bearing also. I'll try PB blaster, if that doesn't work what about heating it? Thanks KB

[bowtiebutler956 649]

I just tore mine apart recently and I used my arbor press on the pin, but other guys hear have used a ball joint press that you just rent at the auto parts. They say they work well, I'm sure its much easier than the way I did it. :twocents-02cents:

[sorekiwi 761]

There is a sticky thread at the top of the Transmission section that gives the cross references for the bearings and seals.

[608KEB 794]

I'll let the PB blaster soak over night if that doesn't work I'll see if I can rent a ball joint press. Any advice on opening the transmission up would be great.... I've never done it. When I get it open any advice on cleaning it out. How do I spilt it open. what tools? I don't have access to a parts cleaner. KB

[tunahead72 2,346]

What model tractor are we talking about?

There's a transmission repair manual in the Files section of RedSquare that should help you a lot. It covers all the manual transmissions through 1982. I've never seen any manual that covers later years, but this should give you a pretty good idea of what you'll be looking at:

http://www.wheelhors...manual-rev-482/

There's also a bunch of good how-to threads in the "Transmissions and transaxles" section of the forum, some with entertaining and informative videos.

[Duff 206]

OK, now that the infamous 1533 bearing is NLA, should we be concerned? I don't see much reaction to this bit of news.......

Duff :thumbs:

[sorekiwi 761]

OK, now that the infamous 1533 bearing is NLA, should we be concerned? I don't see much reaction to this bit of news.......

Duff

Probably, but at at $80 a pop, I cant see anyone stockpiling many if they do find some.

[WH854 44]

OK, now that the infamous 1533 bearing is NLA, should we be concerned? I don't see much reaction to this bit of news.......

Duff

I guess a feller should start gathering a bunch of transmissions that arn't any good, pull the 1533 bearings out and save them for future use .Or find a way to use a different bearing.They are not as wide as other ball bearings. I have a set I removed from a transmissiom that was cracked so I have a set.

Chas

[WH854 44]

OK, now that the infamous 1533 bearing is NLA, should we be concerned? I don't see much reaction to this bit of news.......

Duff

Probably, but at at $80 a pop, I cant see anyone stockpiling many if they do find some.

Aguy on ebay want's 150.00 for just one.

Chas

[WH854 44]

I'll let the PB blaster soak over night if that doesn't work I'll see if I can rent a ball joint press. Any advice on opening the transmission up would be great.... I've never done it. When I get it open any advice on cleaning it out. How do I spilt it open. what tools? I don't have access to a parts cleaner. KB

Try these links

Chas

[racinfool40 202]

AHHHHH!!! The infamous 1533 bearing..Seen that coming on the NLA!! Thats why I pull them from every trans I come across..I have a few sets sealed in bags covered in grease!!

As for why this thread was started..I would definitly replace the needle bearing as everyone else has stated. Save alot of head ache's down the road..please let us know what trans you are working on. And we will get you pointed in the right direction.

MIKE.

[608KEB 794]

It's a 4 speed from a 1975 B-80. Can I still get needle bearings. I think it's part #1528

[pfrederi 17,167]

Koyo (or Torrington) B-1616 Less than $10 from bearing place. Also from your local auto parts store but will be more$$ (or $20 from Toro)

[pfrederi 17,167]

Had to suspect the 1533 NLA issue....however other than the one taken out by the failed needle bearing (which was run for quite awhile after it failed) I have never had to replace a 1533. I saved a couple out of otherwise unsalavageable trannys. (should have enough to outlast me :)

[608KEB 794]

would u know what the part # is for the rent of the needle bearings #1508 3/4" qty 2, #1532 1" qty 2, #1529 3/4" qty 1, #1523 3/4"qty 1 , #1531 5/8" qty 1 #1518 5/8" qty 1 KB

[WH854 44]

would u know what the part # is for the rent of the needle bearings #1508 3/4" qty 2, #1532 1" qty 2, #1529 3/4" qty 1, #1523 3/4"qty 1 , #1531 5/8" qty 1 #1518 5/8" qty 1 KB

Try this link up in the right hand corner #8

Chas

[sorekiwi 761]

would u know what the part # is for the rent of the needle bearings #1508 3/4" qty 2, #1532 1" qty 2, #1529 3/4" qty 1, #1523 3/4"qty 1 , #1531 5/8" qty 1 #1518 5/8" qty 1 KB

[608KEB 794]

got it thanks! KB

I ordered all the needle bearings for about $65.00