Old, old Starter Help me!

[Electro12WH 50]

I have a field wound starter circa; '68-'69. My current problem is that I put the bendix parts in a baggie so I wouldn't lose them, but now I don't remember the assembly order. My Toro dealer who has worked on mucho old WHs, can't even rememember how they go because they are old and the service book doesn't have a break down. These were the first starters used after the gen./starters.

So, who knows the fine points of these things???

[dodge78 90]

here is my guess

Its from this book, its floating around in a pdf.

[Electro12WH 50]

Sorry, that doesn't match the parts in my starter.

[Electro12WH 50]

These are the parts in no particular order.

[TT-(Moderator) 1,129]

Ahhhhh yes.......... Kohler bendix p/n 236562

BRB with pictures & instructions. :dunno:

[TT-(Moderator) 1,129]

OK.......

Demonstration starter (so you know I have the right one )

Assembled drive on starter:

Installation order of parts:

Domed washer first (dome out):

Clutch cup with rubber insert:

Larger flat washer:

Helix / drive gear assembly (shoulder on drive gear facing out):

Sleeve (flanged end in against helix):

Small flat washer:

Return spring:

Spring seat (recessed side against spring):

Lock nut:

If that doesn't help, nothing will! :dunno:

[Electro12WH 50]

Yay!!! It lives! It lives!

I'm going to print this out and put it in my service manual. :dunno:

[Electro12WH 50]

While I have your attention, how do you think this starter compares with the next Bosch design that has the alloy end cap and 4 brushes? I mean for starting power. It's physically larger.

[TT-(Moderator) 1,129]

I have honestly not had problems with either type being able to turn over a "stock" engine. I would imagine that the wound-field starters require a bit more power (amperage) to operate and were more powerful as a result. (older tractors had "bigger' batteries)

My theory:

Like everything else, the permanent-magnet starters were cheaper to manufacture and faster to assemble, so that's why they prevailed.