nylyon-(Admin) 7,880 #1 Posted April 25, 2010 Everyone told me that the 2003 Ford 6.0 Powerstroke was to be avoided, and I didn't listen. Well getting ready for the camping season I bought some gauges for the truck. Mind you it's running unbelievable, so much power, great sound, love this truck. So I hooked up the gauges and measured the engine oil temperature and the engine coolant temperature. According to the Powerstroke guys there shouldn't be more than a 15 degree difference, I got 25+! So it looks like it's time for a new oil cooler. I was able to find one for $155 (retail is over $300), and the fun of removing turbo's, exhaust, intakes.... is about to begin. Ugh! Oh well, when it's fixed it'll even be better! For those interested, the cause of the failure is International's poor block cleaning after casting. There is still a lot of sand in the block which plugs the oil cooler, Thankfully I have a 2003, or I would be most likely buying a new EGR cooler as well, so there the 2003's are better! So if anyone is interested in helping yank a diesel oil cooler... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Operator 7 #2 Posted April 25, 2010 No offense Karl but I'll stick with my 7.3 I'd be glad to help and learn but, you are just a little to far over. Randy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nylyon-(Admin) 7,880 #3 Posted April 25, 2010 Ah, come on, I'll buy the beer! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mowerman1193 42 #4 Posted April 25, 2010 I like the Ford and Chevy trucks but you couldn't give me one unless it had a cummins in it Hope your repair goes well! It sure is a good thing you caught it before anything real bad happen..like being towed home by a cummins Kevin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nylyon-(Admin) 7,880 #5 Posted April 25, 2010 I couldn't afford the Dodge, so I got the Ford! Seriously, it's a great truck and a great engine. Unfortunately there were a couple of short cuts taken which compromise it, but I still think that I got a good one, had I owned it from new, I probably would have put on a coolant filter earlier to prevent this very problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Operator 7 #6 Posted April 25, 2010 Ah, come on, I'll buy the beer! I would more than likely get there in the morning! Then it would have to be biscuits and gravy Karl I think somebody is trying to say one is better than the other, I hope not. It would be an interesting combo though, Superduty and Cummins. To bad it wasn't an option when buying. Randy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mowerman1193 42 #7 Posted April 25, 2010 Ah, come on, I'll buy the beer! I would more than likely get there in the morning! Then it would have to be biscuits and gravy Karl I think somebody is trying to say one is better than the other, I hope not. It would be an interesting combo though, Superduty and Cummins. To bad it wasn't an option when buying. Randy Nah I was just messing with you guys, I don't even have a diesel so I can't talk to much, lol I do however have most of my family and friends own cummins powered trucks..Good friend that don't care for Dodge too much so he owns his own creation..1986 Chevy 1 Ton that he ripped the gasser out and put a Cummins in it..He is a Diesel mechanic by trade and did a super job converting this as it looks all factory done..He is now doing a cummins powered super duty... that should be pretty cool... Good luck on the repairs... Kevin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butch 194 #8 Posted April 25, 2010 I have a 2007 F-250 with the 6.0 turbo diesel. I don't have anything to compare it to but it pushes my 8000 pound truck pretty good. It did take time to get use to the turbo to "spool up" before going. It's not an instant acceleration kick like other vehicles. One thing I didn't know when I bought this truck was how much oil they take. 15, fifteen quarts of oil!! Butch S. Jersey Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevasaurus 23,276 #9 Posted April 25, 2010 Did somebody say..."for beer" But Ford and beer don't look good in the same sentence. Seriously, Karl, I would help you if you were closer. :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C-Series14 15 #10 Posted April 25, 2010 Sorry to hear, Karl. As a fellow Diesel owner, I feel your pain working on them. I thought C-5's were a pain! All though I have only installed improvement parts such as a bigger downpipe, bigger exhaust, gauges, lift kit, programmer, and a few other things, the downpipe was the most fun! It is amazing how all that plumbing and parts fit in there that tight!!! Of course, with the body off, it is a 15 minute job! My LBZ has been flawless so far, just a couple CEL's during the winter when I didn't have my winter front on. And Butch, going from a gas K2500HD to a diesel K2500HD is night and day. Tons of power. Love breaking the tires loose pulling the trailer at stop lights, the kids love it! :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6wheeler 669 #11 Posted April 25, 2010 Well, I would say diesels are the way to go, In the KW mixer I drive every day. And , in my Bobcat. But in my pickup, I prefer my good old 7.5L 460. tons of power, pulls anything , And drinks as much as I do . There is no substitute for cubic inches . Pat Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
truckin88 104 #12 Posted April 25, 2010 7.3 is the way to go...the problem with the newer ford diesels (like 08/09/10), is the cab needs to be removed to work on them...tons of guys have lots of problems with them. This is why 2011 ford is coming out with a new V8 for the superduty and a new in house designed deisel. Personally I'm done with the big 3 trucks after my what my Ram has cost me in the past 3 months... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nylyon-(Admin) 7,880 #13 Posted April 25, 2010 Half of me is looking forward to tearing into this thing, and half would rather sit back and let someone else do it. It's been a while since I tore into a Diesel, so that part will be fun, and when it's done I'm sure I'll be good to go! All in all I can't complain, it's a great truck which I got a great deal on, this is just a little added fun to the mix. And yeah, free beer.... :omg: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nick 13 #14 Posted April 25, 2010 It would be an interesting combo though, Superduty and Cummins. To bad it wasn't an option when buying. Randy Karl, Should be good as new when your done. Randy, Step up to the big F650 and you could have a cummins in the Ford. If you dont have one might just need a CDL. Add a trailer the combo would be a bit over 26K GVW. :omg: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
porkchop 1 #15 Posted April 25, 2010 :omg: I dyno tested hundreds of the brand new 6.0 powerstrokes for intrenational. alot of them had way more torque and horsepower then advertised. Some had 600 plus hp. These where right off the assembly line. We hooked them to a dyno and ran them through a 5 minute warm up then put them full out for about 10 minutes. once in a while one would let go you should have heard it. Overall I,d say they are a strong engine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chris11 184 #16 Posted April 25, 2010 I worked for Dodge for 15 years there not much better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rickv1957 74 #17 Posted April 25, 2010 I never got into the diesels,just keep pouring gas down the old 454s,Rick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crazywheelhorseman 69 #18 Posted April 25, 2010 If you want a cummings in a ford there is a kit available you can buy. it's called destroked and it allows you to mate up the cummings to you stock ford trans. as for 6.0's I've seen more of those blow headgaskets more often than anything. have fun with it. -wayne Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Operator 7 #19 Posted April 26, 2010 It would be an interesting combo though, Superduty and Cummins. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butch 194 #20 Posted April 26, 2010 7.3 is the way to go...the problem with the newer ford diesels (like 08/09/10), is the cab needs to be removed to work on them...tons of guys have lots of problems with them. This is why 2011 ford is coming out with a new V8 for the superduty and a new in house designed deisel. Personally I'm done with the big 3 trucks after my what my Ram has cost me in the past 3 months... I was told they have to lift the body off my 2007 also. One of the Ford mechanics told me it's not that hard. Yeah, it's not that hard for the dealer. Try that in your garage!! Butch Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butch 194 #21 Posted April 26, 2010 I never got into the diesels,just keep pouring gas down the old 454s,Rick If you have a 454 in a truck that is all you do is pour gas down it. If ya had something more fuel efficient like a diesel you might be able to save some bucks and come up with a decent WH collection. :omg: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nylyon-(Admin) 7,880 #22 Posted April 26, 2010 Having both Gas and Diesel pickups, I would lean towards the diesel even with the added expenses (oil changes, parts costs etc). I'm still gathering my parts, but the cost is going to be about $300 in parts, and another $140 in fluids (I run synthetic oil in the truck). I'm still driving it even though it's sick.... it just doesn't know it's sick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chris11 184 #23 Posted April 26, 2010 on the dodge trucks i would take all but the rear 2 bolts out of the bed and have someone help me lift it like a dump body to do the fuel pumps. alot easyer then trying to drain the tanks. because they would always be full when the pump would die.People run them so low the pump would get hot and with no fuel in there. then pull into the gas station to put cold fuel on that hot pump . just kills pumps. always keep your tank up on fuel. :omg: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
can whlvr 994 #24 Posted April 27, 2010 i owned a 6.9litre,a7.3 and a 6.0,i really liked all of them,especially the 7.3,good luck on your repair Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nylyon-(Admin) 7,880 #25 Posted April 27, 2010 I bought a coolant filter so this will never happen again. If anyone has a 6.0, you may want to invest in a coolant filter before you have to invest in an oil cooler. It seems to be inevitable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites