slk 7 #1 Posted 5 hours ago I have just acquired this wheel horse C120 8 speed. I noticed that the front wheels do not sit straight ahead. You can get one straight then the other one is at least 4” turned out. I do not see any adjustment that can be made to correct that unless I am missing something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 47,920 #2 Posted 5 hours ago (edited) Some tractors have adjustable tie rods and some do not. If your doesn't the weld at the spindle where the plate that the tie rod attaches to may have given way. Causing the plate and spindle to move independently. I have seen this a few times Edited 5 hours ago by squonk 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ri702bill 12,866 #3 Posted 5 hours ago A couple of pictures would help. A bent spindle will severely change the toe-in of the front axle. Also, excessive wear in the front axle bosses & similar wear on the spindles will drastically change the toe-in. Jack the tractor up under the front of the frame to allow the axle to hang free with both wheels off the ground. Try to shake each wheel to check for play. Up and down play in the spindles, not the wheels, is to be expected. Bad wheel bearing(s) have the same bad effect on the toe-in. It may be a combination of little things that add up..... A worn out center pivot will throw the steering off, but not so much the toe-in as the others mentioned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slk 7 #4 Posted 4 hours ago (edited) If ya get one wheel pointed straight the other one will point outward. It is crazy. The sight will not let me post another pic of the other wheel. Says i can only post 15.57 meg. But if ya put the left wheel straight the right will be pointed outward just as much. Edited 4 hours ago by slk added info Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brockport Bill 2,461 #6 Posted 4 hours ago what about adjustable tie rod - or am i mis-understanding the problem? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ri702bill 12,866 #7 Posted 4 hours ago A bent or loose steering arm needs to be fixed / replaced before throwing good money at it buying adjustable tierods with replacable joints. Note the relative placement of the rh and lh outer tierod joints - they look about the same - yet the lhe slindle IS damaged. Note the damage to the upper hood - looks like a vehicle backed into it - a coincidence that the spindle took a beating too???? Methinks a LOT more is bent / busted / broken here than meets the eye. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slk 7 #8 Posted 3 hours ago I have not taken anything apart yet. When I do I may see the problem but was hoping there was some sort of adjustment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lynnmor 9,019 #9 Posted 3 hours ago 1 hour ago, slk said: If ya get one wheel pointed straight the other one will point outward. It is crazy. The sight will not let me post another pic of the other wheel. Says i can only post 15.57 meg. But if ya put the left wheel straight the right will be pointed outward just as much. If you become a supporter the restriction on posting goes away. Join here. That wrecked front end is way more than an adjustment, it should be obvious as you inspect the parts. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wallfish 20,524 #10 Posted 3 hours ago Something is broken or someone put on the wrong tie rod(s) 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Kennell 47,045 #11 Posted 3 hours ago (edited) I'm guessing here but did the previous owner buy new tie rods that were too short. to the Edited 2 hours ago by Ed Kennell 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sqrlgtr 3,744 #12 Posted 2 hours ago 34 minutes ago, lynnmor said: If you become a supporter the restriction on posting goes away. Join here. This if you plan on staying around and enjoy these ol tractors it is well worth the price of admission to become a supporter. You would be hard pressed to find a better bunch of 's then what's on here and all the W/H knowledge you want find anywhere else. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldlineman 1,802 #13 Posted 2 hours ago I'll second that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bar Nuthin 3,074 #14 Posted 30 minutes ago Move the steering wheel until these two parts are vertical, then take a look at the front end. It may provide clues as to where the problem is. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ineedanother 2,822 #15 Posted 27 minutes ago 3 hours ago, ri702bill said: A bent or loose steering arm needs to be fixed / replaced before throwing good money at it buying adjustable tierods with replacable joints. Note the relative placement of the rh and lh outer tierod joints - they look about the same - yet the lhe slindle IS damaged. Note the damage to the upper hood - looks like a vehicle backed into it - a coincidence that the spindle took a beating too???? Methinks a LOT more is bent / busted / broken here than meets the eye. I agree with @ri702bill about it being backed into or something similar. I think the mule drive has been injured as well... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites