Tecumseh OHH60 on Generac

[Racinbob 13,109]

I don't need the generator and I certainly don't need another project but the price was certainly right, free. It's dirty from sitting but clearly there's not many hours on it. 

 

 

 

It was locked up tight and I couldn't be sure if it was the engine or generator head so I opened things up. Once I got this far I found that it would rotate just shy of one turn before stopping solidly. It was definitely in the engine. 

 

 

I kept going and found this.

 

 

 

 

Apparently the spring retainer left home and the valve dropped into the cylinder. It completely punctured the head and was jammed tight. The head is toast. The piston wasn't hurt and I think the pushrods are fine but I'll check them better today. I first assumed that a new head would end this project and I'd just salvage the power head but I found a used head complete with the valves, springs and rockers for 40 some bucks so now I'm pondering. It's not worth putting a lot into it, especially for me since I don't need it, but I would a reasonable amount. 

I figure I'll scrounge up a service manual. I didn't see one here for the overhead valve models 

 

What would you guys do? This unit will clean up to near new condition and could be a nice little generator.

 

Edited yesterday at 08:49 AM by Racinbob

[wallfish 20,508]

Fix it up and sell it at a very reasonable price to someone that needs it. 

[Racinbob 13,109]

That could be an option if I get it right. I'm looking for opinions from the engine gurus as to what I should do while I have it open considering the type of failure.

[ri702bill 12,802]

You will probably want to remove the flywheel & check the key - the sudden stop of rotating parts - at speed - most likely caused an issue with the key, and perhaps the connecting rod.

[Racinbob 13,109]

53 minutes ago, ri702bill said:

You will probably want to remove the flywheel & check the key - the sudden stop of rotating parts - at speed - most likely caused an issue with the key, and perhaps the connecting rod.

 

I was hoping not to pull the flywheel. I don't have the right puller. There's no tapped holes in the face of it. I have a good view of the key and keyway. It looks unharmed. As far as the rod If feels great when I rotate it and I don't feel or hear anything at the bottom or top of the stroke. Good enough check?

[Ed Kennell 46,977]

I had a battery start Onan powered genset.  When the Onan died, I added a drive pulley and did some replumbing.      Now I park it in front of a WH and drive it off the PTO.

The  Onan is an air compressor while the generator has 110V AC and 12VDC outputs.

 

 

 

This is what happens when you get cabin fever in the winter.

[Racinbob 13,109]

7 minutes ago, Ed Kennell said:

I had a battery start Onan powered genset.  When the Onan died, I added a drive pulley and did some replumbing.      Now I park it in front of a WH and drive it off the PTO.

The  Onan is an air compressor while the generator has 110V AC and 12VDC outputs.

 

This is what happens when you get cabin fever in the winter.

 

That's awesome. I could see something like that as being another option. A small transportable generator would be handy out in the woods.

[WHX?? 57,777]

3 hours ago, Racinbob said:

What would you guys do?

The motor head in me would fix it up and flip. 

 

19 minutes ago, Racinbob said:

I don't have the right puller.

Bill is right you should check the key. 

Couple of pry bars and have Nancy wack it with the skillet? 

[squonk 47,886]

12 minutes ago, WHX?? said:

The motor head in me would fix it up and flip. 

 

Bill is right you should check the key. 

Couple of pry bars and have Nancy wack it with the skillet? 

As long as her aim is ok! 

[Racinbob 13,109]

14 minutes ago, WHX?? said:

The motor head in me would fix it up and flip. 

 

Bill is right you should check the key. 

Couple of pry bars and have Nancy wack it with the skillet? 

 

1 minute ago, squonk said:

As long as her aim is ok! 

 

Oh I'm sure she'd hit exactly what she was aiming at..........

 

What do ya think?

 

[squonk 47,886]

I'd put a key in it. 

[Racinbob 13,109]

21 minutes ago, squonk said:

I'd put a key in it. 

 

Oh, all right. I was hoping you guys would talk me out of it but I see it too. I just squirted some juice on it. 

[Racinbob 13,109]

Geez! The flywheel came off so easily it almost scared me. The key is beat a little. I don't know if it would have affected things but definitely needs replacing. Shaft keyway is still pristine.

 

[8ntruck 9,215]

2 hours ago, squonk said:

I'd put a key in it. 

Agree.  That key has started to roll.

[ri702bill 12,802]

3 hours ago, Racinbob said:

Bill is right you should check the key. 

Couple of pry bars and have Nancy wack it with the skillet? 

You're welcome! 

[Racinbob 13,109]

Are the aftermarket carbs for these little Teckys as iffy as the ones for Kohlers? I know there must be a pound of gunk in this one so I want to rebuild or replace it. 

[WHX?? 57,777]

9 hours ago, squonk said:

I'd put a key in it. 

Yep looks a little tilted to the right a bit. Looks like the crank might have pushed up on that side too? 

[Handy Don 17,312]

4 hours ago, Racinbob said:

Are the aftermarket carbs for these little Teckys as iffy as the ones for Kohlers? I know there must be a pound of gunk in this one so I want to rebuild or replace it. 

I’ve had one for HH60 and one for HH100--good and so-so, respectively. 

[Racinbob 13,109]

8 hours ago, WHX?? said:

Yep looks a little tilted to the right a bit. Looks like the crank might have pushed up on that side too? 

 

The key is definitely a fuzz off. I'm thinking that slight bit of movement let the flywheel come off easily. The crank is fine but I see what you're seeing there. I just went out to double check but it's just the camera angle.

[WHX?? 57,777]

3 hours ago, Racinbob said:

just the camera angle.

[oldlineman 1,800]

I have one like that only 3,200 watt, that was my fathers. I replaced the carb, not sure where I got it but it works well. You would be better served by cleaning the old one if you have the cleaning equipment, witch I do not have. I would also be concerned about having a bent rod with that sudden stop of the crank.

Edited 7 hours ago by oldlineman

[Racinbob 13,109]

1 hour ago, oldlineman said:

I have one like that only 3,200 watt, that was my fathers. I replaced the carb, not sure where I got it but it works well. You would be better served by cleaning the old one if you have the cleaning equipment, witch I do not have. I would also be concerned about having a bent rod with that sudden stop of the crank.

 

Rebuild the old one has been decided. I watch a couple videos last night and it's just as easy as a Carter or Walbro. The best one was done by a guy who starts out with something about one handed and I assumed he meant he had to hold the camera in one hand and work with the other. Nope. He was missing his left hand from below the elbow. It didn't slow him down a bit and his video was great. 

 

I thought I found another piece of the valve stem when I discovered the throttle plate was jammed up. Turned out to be a phillips bit. No harm done.

 

 

I've never been accused of being the sharpest spoon in the drawer but I'm thinking this needs a bit of cleaning. 

 

[702854boy 1,102]

That is the nastiest carb I've ever seen

[sqrlgtr 3,697]

 I would take the money I was going spend on that Tecky and build me a mule drive mount and use one of the horses to drive that genny, but I aint no Tecky fan, got one on a 551 and that's enough for me .

They are the only small engines that Ive ever blown up, both on old tillers, coincidence maybe? Hope I didn't just jinx my Kohlers .

[WHX?? 57,777]

47 minutes ago, 702854boy said:

That is the nastiest carb I've ever seen

I may have to second that.