Fj40z 86 #26 Posted Sunday at 02:30 AM 14 minutes ago, AlexR said: Eb is right on, it's a 1976 and yes it was originally a C160 8 speed Whats the breakdown on the numbers that lets you know that? Like to learn Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oliver2-44 11,499 #27 Posted Sunday at 02:31 AM (edited) 8 hours ago, Fj40z said: Seller had replaced both rear axle seals not long ago as well. Nice looking Horse! Sometimes a leaking rear axle seal can indicate other issues. Jack up the tractor, remove the rear wheels and see if you can move the axle hubs up/down, side to side. Any movement more than a tiny tiny amount can indicate worn axle bearings and or axles. New seals usually don’t last if the bearings are worn. In an out movement is ok Edited Sunday at 02:32 AM by oliver2-44 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fj40z 86 #28 Posted Sunday at 02:34 AM 2 minutes ago, oliver2-44 said: Nice looking Horse! Sometimes a leaking rear axle seal can indicate other issues. Jack up the tractor, remove the rear wheels and see if you can move the axle hubs up/down, side to side. Any movement more than a tiny tiny amount can indicate worn axle bearings and or axles. New seals usually don’t last if the bearings are worn. In an out movement is ok Thank you sir! I’ll sure do that as soon as I get a chance 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 79,018 #29 Posted Sunday at 10:41 AM 8 hours ago, Fj40z said: Here’s a pic of the data tag. Any guesses to the model year? Hard to see in the pic but it reads 61-16K801-03173 6311 The first 6 in the first line is what tells the year here. I don't recall the methodology behind it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlexR 2,960 #30 Posted Sunday at 04:41 PM (edited) 6 hours ago, ebinmaine said: The first 6 in the first line is what tells the year here. I don't recall the methodology behind it. On the second line the 4 digits I believe the 6 is for 76 and 311 is the 311th day of 76 But there is something in the first line that determines the year as well I'm not completely sure what either. The first line 61 is a indicator of the year in some way. The 16K is the 16hp kohler and the 8 is for the 8 speed Edited Sunday at 04:49 PM by AlexR 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ineedanother 2,422 #31 Posted Monday at 01:10 AM (edited) 23 hours ago, Fj40z said: Here’s a pic of the data tag. Any guesses to the model year? Hard to see in the pic but it reads 61-16K801-03173 6311 Here is the tag from my first c-160. It's difficult to make out but: 61-16KS01-03388 6302 Possibly together on the production line in 1976. Almost certainly on the grounds together and might have come to NC in the same shipment. Edited Monday at 01:19 AM by ineedanother 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fj40z 86 #32 Posted Monday at 01:55 AM 40 minutes ago, ineedanother said: Here is the tag from my first c-160. It's difficult to make out but: 61-16KS01-03388 6302 Possibly together on the production line in 1976. Almost certainly on the grounds together and might have come to NC in the same shipment. How cool is that!! I wouldn’t doubt it at all. Would be interesting to know what dealers they were sent to and such. I do know mine spent its entire life in western NC. Crazy to think after all those years they are both still in central NC now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ineedanother 2,422 #33 Posted Monday at 02:03 AM 3 minutes ago, Fj40z said: How cool is that!! I wouldn’t doubt it at all. Would be interesting to know what dealers they were sent to and such. I do know mine spent its entire life in western NC. Crazy to think after all those years they are both still in central NC now. 50 years of who knows what. The frame from mine is still here but was mistreated and unserviceable. Just about everything else from it is working for me still. That's a testament... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gwest_ca-(File Mod) 12,259 #34 Posted Monday at 03:04 AM Notice the plate stamper at the time did not understand Julian build dates 1976 C-160 8-Speed model 61-16K801 1976 serial numbers that have shown up for the 61-16K801 003173 - Build date 1975 5311 November 7 Friday [6311 is wrong] 1976 C-160 Auto model 61-16KS01 1976 serial numbers that have shown up for the 61-16KS01 003388 - Build date 1975 5302 October 29 Wednesday [6302 posted] 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ineedanother 2,422 #35 Posted Monday at 03:51 AM 39 minutes ago, gwest_ca said: Notice the plate stamper at the time did not understand Julian build dates 1976 C-160 8-Speed model 61-16K801 1976 serial numbers that have shown up for the 61-16K801 003173 - Build date 1975 5311 November 7 Friday [6311 is wrong] 1976 C-160 Auto model 61-16KS01 1976 serial numbers that have shown up for the 61-16KS01 003388 - Build date 1975 5302 October 29 Wednesday [6302 posted] Interesting, and I have yet to figure out how you decipher all of this but appreciate it Not to derail @Fj40z thread but I'm in agreement that we're both in possession of '75 c-160s regardless of the lack of details to confirm build dates. The one "record" I have from mine is a manual from the PO. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fj40z 86 #36 Posted Monday at 02:32 PM @ineedanother please keep posting, all great info no derailment at all. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fj40z 86 #37 Posted Monday at 02:35 PM 11 hours ago, gwest_ca said: Notice the plate stamper at the time did not understand Julian build dates 1976 C-160 8-Speed model 61-16K801 1976 serial numbers that have shown up for the 61-16K801 003173 - Build date 1975 5311 November 7 Friday [6311 is wrong] 1976 C-160 Auto model 61-16KS01 1976 serial numbers that have shown up for the 61-16KS01 003388 - Build date 1975 5302 October 29 Wednesday [6302 posted] Very cool info with this. I’m still learning so I’m not 100 percent sure what Julian build dates mean. I’m thinking that it means both mine and @ineedanother have C160’s that were actually built in late 1975 for the 1976 model year correct? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 79,018 #38 Posted Monday at 08:25 PM 5 hours ago, Fj40z said: Very cool info with this. I’m still learning so I’m not 100 percent sure what Julian build dates mean. Julian dates are usually a 4 or 5 character code that shows the year made and the actual COUNTED day of that year. For example: January has 31 days February usually has 28 March has 31 Add them. 90 So a Julian date for March 31st, 1975 might read 75090 Or 5090 5 hours ago, Fj40z said: I’m thinking that it means both mine and @ineedanother have C160’s that were actually built in late 1975 for the 1976 model year correct? That's my impression. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fj40z 86 #39 Posted Tuesday at 01:51 AM @ebinmaine Makes sense, would have never figured that out on my own. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 79,018 #40 Posted Tuesday at 08:45 AM 6 hours ago, Fj40z said: @ebinmaine Makes sense, would have never figured that out on my own. Me either. That goes back to my early days in auto parts. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 20,613 #41 Posted Tuesday at 12:25 PM If you were in the Army and had anything to do with supply you know julian dates. Problem was the 4 digit replicated every 10 years 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peter lena 9,893 #42 Posted Tuesday at 08:23 PM @Fj40z personally love original oiled patina , first thing I do on any recent pick up . never remove any of what's there , 2 stage set up , penetrating oil spray / soak down , really good in a hot sun , to quickly depen base of patina paint ,would just leave , enhance that soak for days , then I like a mineral oil clean cloth rub down , get every inch of penetrated paint , let that soak , again , the sun really darkens the paint absorption, wipe it down clean / clear , then a 6" electric palm buffer , cleaner wax , just go easy and you will see the depth of what's left , experiment on areas , for reference , why not ? think that will be a perfect darker based look . deck will probably be a stage cleaner / brighter . like to hot sun oil soak those , don't tell it doesn't work . pete Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fj40z 86 #43 Posted 7 hours ago On 6/2/2026 at 4:23 PM, peter lena said: @Fj40z personally love original oiled patina , first thing I do on any recent pick up . never remove any of what's there , 2 stage set up , penetrating oil spray / soak down , really good in a hot sun , to quickly depen base of patina paint ,would just leave , enhance that soak for days , then I like a mineral oil clean cloth rub down , get every inch of penetrated paint , let that soak , again , the sun really darkens the paint absorption, wipe it down clean / clear , then a 6" electric palm buffer , cleaner wax , just go easy and you will see the depth of what's left , experiment on areas , for reference , why not ? think that will be a perfect darker based look . deck will probably be a stage cleaner / brighter . like to hot sun oil soak those , don't tell it doesn't work . pete That’s probably going to be my plan for the time being. I love old to see old stuff all original with patina. I have a ‘79 Toyota pickup that I left alone as far as body work and paint. Every so often I scrub it down with CLR then I rub it down with boiled linseed oil. Takes a couple days for the oil to cure out but it looks really nice and preserves it well. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oliver2-44 11,499 #44 Posted 5 hours ago 1 hour ago, Fj40z said: Every so often I scrub it down with CLR then I rub it down with boiled linseed oil. Takes a couple days for the oil to cure out but it looks really nice and preserves it well. Looks Good1 I've never heard of scrubbing one down with CLR. Is that to remove light surface rust? Is it more common in Northern state that use road salts, etc? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fj40z 86 #45 Posted 4 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, oliver2-44 said: Looks Good1 I've never heard of scrubbing one down with CLR. Is that to remove light surface rust? Is it more common in Northern state that use road salts, etc? Yeah that’s exactly it. It will remove the red oxidation color, leaving fairly clean steel. I use a blue scotch brite pad and go over the whole rig just like washing a car. Let it dry then apply the oil. Some guys use Comet instead of CLR and it works well also. Either one will remove lots of old dirty stains from paint. Some people use Penetrol or Fluid Film instead of the boiled linseed oil. Main thing is whatever oil you use is to apply and then really rub most of it off, leaving a very light film. They all take a couple days to cure out. Rags with boiled linseed oil have been known to combust so if you ever use it be careful with those oily rags. Really not a northern thing, I’m in NC and I know lots of guys that utilize this method just preserving old original paint. I think it started out in the rat rod scene. Edited 4 hours ago by Fj40z 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 79,018 #46 Posted 2 hours ago 3 hours ago, oliver2-44 said: Looks Good1 I've never heard of scrubbing one down with CLR. Is that to remove light surface rust? Is it more common in Northern state that use road salts, etc? 2 hours ago, Fj40z said: Really not a northern thing Correct. Up here we just replace the panel because there's no holding patina on a rust hole 🕳 I'm kidding. A little. There are plenty of people that do their best to preserve but you can not use the item in the winter on the roads without incredible amounts of extra work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites