adsm08 4,864 #51 Posted 15 hours ago @PWL216 That's kind of a crap angle on the first picture. The key doesn't look sheared to me, but it sure does look beat up, and I see a few other things on the crank that make me think that flywheel was spinning on it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill D 3,031 #52 Posted 15 hours ago (edited) 27 minutes ago, adsm08 said: @PWL216 That's kind of a crap angle on the first picture. The key doesn't look sheared to me, but it sure does look beat up, and I see a few other things on the crank that make me think that flywheel was spinning on it. Agreed. Part of the key is supposed hold the trigger wheel in time. Pull the key and post a picture please. Pretty sure it's sheared. If you look at the picture of the crank trigger wheel the notch for the key is at the top, not in line with the keyway. I think we found the problem. You'll need a new key and maybe a new crank trigger wheel. Key is PN 515-0284 Edited 15 hours ago by Bill D 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PWL216 1,248 #53 Posted 15 hours ago Requested pics. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PWL216 1,248 #54 Posted 15 hours ago 29 minutes ago, adsm08 said: @PWL216 That's kind of a crap angle on the first picture. The key doesn't look sheared to me, but it sure does look beat up, and I see a few other things on the crank that make me think that flywheel was spinning on it. Agreed. The crank is gouged pretty well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill D 3,031 #55 Posted 15 hours ago (edited) https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.ebay.com/itm/187139873092&ved=2ahUKEwiqyKOBraaWAxVhq4kEHSRvD7AQqa4BegQIThAA&usg=AOvVaw29kSzXkoLyxbxLVKcjEsmh Definitely the wrong key. This is the key you need. An OEM Onan key is cheaper from the Cummins website. Edited 13 hours ago by Bill D 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lynnmor 8,947 #56 Posted 15 hours ago Here is the key you need: 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PWL216 1,248 #57 Posted 14 hours ago Thx guys!! updates to follow… 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sqrlgtr 3,506 #58 Posted 13 hours ago Some great info in this thread and can't wait to hear about that big smile when @PWL216 gets it running again. I really like that P220 hum. If it hasnt been mentioned already would definitely decarb, check 2 piece manifold, clean carb and adjust/inspect valves why you have tore down this far. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill D 3,031 #59 Posted 13 hours ago That crank is pretty beat!! @lynnmor what do you think. Is it salvageable? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sqrlgtr 3,506 #60 Posted 13 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Bill D said: That crank is pretty beat!! @lynnmor what do you think. Is it salvageable? you guys are a lot more knowledgeable than I am but I sure would clean it up good and try it. just my though. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PWL216 1,248 #61 Posted 13 hours ago 11 minutes ago, sqrlgtr said: you guys are a lot more knowledgeable than I am but I sure would clean it up good and try it. just my though. That’s the plan, I hope. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wallfish 20,337 #62 Posted 13 hours ago That flywheel had definitely spun before and probably because someone put a little woodruff key in there. I don't see that as being the end of that shaft though. Just put the proper key in it and it will hold. I'm no Onan expert and barely know them but most every other engine uses a taper fit lock instead of relying solely on a key to hold them in place for a reason. That's a straight shaft fit so the long key is definitely required 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill D 3,031 #63 Posted 13 hours ago (edited) 9 hours ago, wallfish said: That flywheel had definitely spun before and probably because someone put a little woodruff key in there. I don't see that as being the end of that shaft though. Just put the proper key in it and it will hold. I'm no Onan expert and barely know them but most every other engine uses a taper fit lock instead of relying solely on a key to hold them in place for a reason. That's a straight shaft fit so the long key is definitely required Someone probably replaced the ignition module but never properly torqued the flywheel bolt when they put it back together, which made the key shear. The long key is used to hold the trigger ring in time. Someone else on here had the same problem with a sheared flywheel key due to the PO not torquing the flywheel bolt properly. Does the flywheel bolt have the correct thick washer with it? Edited 3 hours ago by Bill D 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 67,881 #64 Posted 3 hours ago 9 hours ago, wallfish said: That flywheel had definitely spun before and probably because someone put a little woodruff key in there. I don't see that as being the end of that shaft though. Just put the proper key in it and it will hold. I'm no Onan expert and barely know them but most every other engine uses a taper fit lock instead of relying solely on a key to hold them in place for a reason. That's a straight shaft fit so the long key is definitely required Since the flywheel has obviously been spun on the crankshaft you should also take a good look inside the flywheel bore. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
c-series don 12,232 #65 Posted 2 hours ago Maybe it’s just the angle of the picture but it appears that the key way in the flywheel is worn? A thorough cleaning will help determine that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cafoose 3,784 #66 Posted 1 hour ago Looks like part of the long key is still on the crankshaft. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites