Why Was This Tractor Parked?

[WHX?? 56,201]

Definitely not running when parked as they usually are. I rescued this machine out of the scrap yard for potential parts tractor for the Missus 16-38. 

Any one see the problem? 

[702854boy 657]

The carb not being hooked up to the air filter or the fact that the blade spindle is 90 degrees sheared from the key or is that the flywheel key?

Edited 7 hours ago by 702854boy

[ebinmaine 78,406]

So what's a little timing issue...?

It'll spark. Eventually.  

[ri702bill 11,931]

Yup - timing is way off. IMHO - salvage what you can & scrap it. Sorry, it's just a vertical shaft grass cutter (well, it used to be) Let it go.

[ineedanother 2,076]

That blade won't turn fast enough. Time to throw it away!

[ineedanother 2,076]

2 minutes ago, ineedanother said:

That blade won't turn fast enough. Time to throw it away!

Oh! that's not a spindle. 

[parsonsponyz 324]

Just tow it behind the truck and catch it in gear.  I heard 35mph is the "magic" speed.  

[WHX?? 56,201]

Nope not a blade ... Big Unit gets the prize. Although hitting a stump with a blade can cause it. 

It wasn't hitting a stump that did it ... It wasn't the mouse house ... it wasn't the Squonkies orange death although it was oil related. 

So after finding the not uncommon Briggs aluminum key way sheared I got as excited as a groom on wedding night. The motor does somewhat turn over with a pipe wrench on the stub.  If that's all it is the mouse house will buff out and maybe I can save this motor right? Maybe go thru it for a a spare engine? Just for practice? 

 

 

 

Hiding behind the starter ...  the reason for the abrupt engine stop. 

These motors are actually not too bad if oil is checked. 

 

 

[squonk 46,198]

1 hour ago, WHX?? said:

a tractor for the Missus 

Any one see the problem? 

 

I would think she'd frown upon the seat comfort! 

Edited 6 hours ago by squonk

[SylvanLakeWH 31,146]

1 hour ago, squonk said:

I would think she'd frown upon the seat comfort! 

Mount a toilet seat... hole is already there... go while you mow... 

[ri702bill 11,931]

Ah, the high milage accessory crankcase vent.... (As Marvin the Martian said... "And there was a big Kaboom!!")

That engine is wasteacated. Maybe that Oh-so-efficient Fram spin on oil filter can be cleaned of the chunks and reused??? 

So it is my guesstimation that the crank came to a sudden stop at speed and the flywheel above said "I'm not done yet" and kept going??

Edited 3 hours ago by ri702bill

[WHX?? 56,201]

1 hour ago, ri702bill said:

engine is wasteacated.

I'm afraid so ... the hole would buff right out with some AL or JB weld. it's the damage inside that scrapped it. I'll still crack the cases just to see. Inquiring minds wanna know. 

These were very popular tractors in Toro's ending of  . A  fair motor too until Briggs went south. 

 

5 hours ago, ri702bill said:

Sorry, it's just a vertical shaft grass cutter

That is true but my same 26 year old  vertical   is still in pristine shape and always has been a daily mower. 

Makes a guy wonder if he took good care of todays big box mowers it would still be operating in 26 years? 

Point of the whole story is check the dammed OIL!!! 

[squonk 46,198]

7 minutes ago, WHX?? said:

I'm afraid so ... the hole would buff right out with some AL or JB weld. it's the damage inside that scrapped it. I'll still crack the cases just to see. Inquiring minds wanna know. 

These were very popular tractors in Toro's ending of  . A  fair motor too until Briggs went south. 

 

That is true but my same 26 year old  vertical   is still in pristine shape and always has been a daily mower. 

Makes a guy wonder if he took good care of todays big box mowers it would still be operating in 26 years? 

Point of the whole story is check the dammed OIL!!! 

I had a little 1990 210H with a 10HP Briggsy, Mowed, plowed snow, pulled down small trees and even adapted an Allis Chalmers snowblower to it. Ran it for 20 years before I sold it, Put a tie rod end and a diode into it and that was it. Guy I sold it to pretty much thrashed it.