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[nyquil junkie 253]

I just won 2 wheelhorse 312s on a local online auction.... why did I do that? 

A WH 312-A and an 312 Hydro. I'll pick them up tomorrow. One runs, one doesn't. The hydro has a plow.

I hope there are some manuals here for those.

Still not sure why I did that. 

[gwest_ca-(File Mod) 12,123]

There are 3 models of each so post the model numbers and serial numbers when you get them. If not possible the engine spec number and engine serial number will help with identifiation.

[nyquil junkie 253]

Will do thanks.

[ebinmaine 78,161]

21 minutes ago, nyquil junkie said:

312 Hydro

 

One of the best, most simple, and most rugged workers there.  

[nyquil junkie 253]

Oh the non running one is a 314-A, made a mistake there. Dunno if it runs but it has a good seat and 4 shiny chrome hubcaps... surely that was worth my 40 bucks. 

[nyquil junkie 253]

Oh here is a question... the 312 is suppose to be running, the 314 is not. I'll assume neither will run when its time to put em on the trailer...

 

If one is an auto and one us a hydro, how do you free wheel them to push em?

[nyquil junkie 253]

Here's a few screen caps. 

[953 nut 65,072]

The one with the Eaton 1100 can be pushed with no problem, The Eaton 700 well need to have the rear wheels put on a pair of dollies.

[nyquil junkie 253]

Mmm. aint got a dolly. maybe it'll rain tonight and it'll slide in the mud when I drag it on the trailer. That sucks. 

[Pullstart 69,578]

16 minutes ago, nyquil junkie said:

Mmm. aint got a dolly. maybe it'll rain tonight and it'll slide in the mud when I drag it on the trailer. That sucks. 

If you give it a shove in a manner that you can spin a wheel backwards, it’ll scoot right along.  Put your hip into it so that backwards spinning wheel is lighter than the forward spinning wheel.

 

[JCM 11,077]

Am I missing something. Both the A and the 1100 are both automatics correct. My Eaton 1100's don 't push very far at all. That's what your WH Classic should be equipped with. The A has the Eaton 700.

 

[WHX?? 55,977]

7 minutes ago, JCM said:

My Eaton 1100's don 't push very far at all

Mine do if you go rreeeaaalll slow. 

 

They don't look the worst Junkie ...  the 314-A looks like it's got dash issues. 

[wallfish 19,691]

50 minutes ago, nyquil junkie said:

Mmm. aint got a dolly. maybe it'll rain tonight and it'll slide in the mud when I drag it on the trailer. That sucks. 

What about a hand truck and a helper? You could probably lift the rear end up with a decent hand truck and doesn't need to be 2 ft in the air.

What about removing the blade from the frame and using that frame end to lift and move it?

Bring a battery and some carb spray and run it like that 

Spit balling again to what sticks 

Edited Saturday at 12:25 AM by wallfish

[wallfish 19,691]

What's the possibility of using a long mower belt from the PTO of the runner connected to the trans pulley from behind? If the front one is kinda dragging the runner slightly the belt should stay tight. 

 

[gwest_ca-(File Mod) 12,123]

The 314-A is a 1985 model 21-14KE01

[Retired Wrencher 6,564]

11 hours ago, ebinmaine said:

 

One of the best, most simple, and most rugged workers there.  

Eric that was the first for me was the 312 A nice but did not like the Hydro in the end.To many wires. Solid that and started buying the Start/Gen’s. And 74 B-80`s. Much better. Enjoy your week end.

[ebinmaine 78,161]

46 minutes ago, Retired Wrencher said:

Eric that was the first for me was the 312 A nice but did not like the Hydro in the end.To many wires. 

 

I agree that there are too many wires on a 300 series.. but that isn't because of a tractor being hydro or automatic.

The earlier machines were far less complicated no matter what transmission was used.  

 

 

 

[Pullstart 69,578]

41 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

 

I agree that there are too many wires on a 300 series.. but that isn't because of a tractor being hydro or automatic.

The earlier machines were far less complicated no matter what transmission was used.  

 

 

 

My guess is that is two reasons he didn’t like the 300/A model 

[Bill D 2,722]

1 hour ago, Retired Wrencher said:

Eric that was the first for me was the 312 A nice but did not like the Hydro in the end.To many wires. Solid that and started buying the Start/Gen’s. And 74 B-80`s. Much better. Enjoy your week end.

The GT1800/1848 gives the best of both worlds.   Simple wiring, Eaton 1100 transmission with faster gearing.  If you like the look of the 300/400 series but don't want complex wiring,  that's the machine for you.

[Retired Wrencher 6,564]

22 hours ago, Bill D said:

The GT1800/1848 gives the best of both worlds.   Simple wiring, Eaton 1100 transmission with faster gearing.  If you like the look of the 300/400 series but don't want complex wiring,  that's the machine for you.

Thanks Bill I will look and see if those could work. My heart is with the old Start/Gens. Those are favorite. Maybe because I have done so many. Happy Sunday to you. 

[nyquil junkie 253]

Ok I got em here. The running one fired right up and drove on the trailer. The dead one I hooked a winch to and slllooowwwly inched it onto the trailer. 

 

The 312hydro runs fine, its been used hard and needs some adjusting and whatnot. It likes to inch forward or backwards on its own, the F-R lever wont stay put, it springs back to N. A little TLC and it'll be a good scraper/puller.

 

The 314-A, someone there at the auction looks like they tied a rope to the steering wheel and tried to lift it, pulled the shaft out of the rack and bent the dash. Probably nothing that cant be fixed. Overall it looks like somebody took care of it, clean oil no leaks, all the wires and whatnot seem to be where they are suppose ot be and havent been messed with or spliced up.

The problem with that one is, it has no spark, I put a battery on it, turned the key, and nothing happens. I pushed the seat safety button down, still nothing. So I jumped the starter right to it, and it spins over good. Compression is good. No sparks, on the plug or on the coil wire to it.

 

So, I'll have to figure out why here at some point. I'll have to start an engine group thread and go from there. 

 

Heres some pics.. first up the 312hydro

[nyquil junkie 253]

here is the dead 314-A

[nyquil junkie 253]

Found it.... bad solenoid. We piped gas to the pump and it fired right up... idles like a new one. 

 

Now, if it only could steer.

[sqrlgtr 2,514]

37 minutes ago, nyquil junkie said:

idles like a new one. 

That always makes a fellar fieel a little better about the purchase .

[nyquil junkie 253]

We just took it off the trailer, it fired right up again, and it drove off nice and smooth. The trans seems to work fine both F+R.