1996 314H Hydro Release?

[Mike'sHorseBarn 3,446]

I'm going to pick up a non running 314H tonight and was wondering if they had a hydro release to free wheel it? I downloaded the operator manual and the eaton manual and can't find anything.

[WHX?? 55,774]

No no release on 1100s. Might be a sticker on it that says push slow. 

[Mike'sHorseBarn 3,446]

5 minutes ago, WHX?? said:

No no release on 1100s. Might be a sticker on it that says push slow. 

 

Should be a fun time then lol I've been looking for an anniversary 314H to use to mow with and finally found one. Guys says it's been sitting in the garage a few years since his grandpa died. 

[gwest_ca-(File Mod) 12,086]

From 1995 operator manual

[nylyon-(Admin) 8,877]

If I recall, the owners manual says push directional lever all the way forward, and hand push only.  It may move slowly, then lock up.  Just stop and wait a minute and push again, it can be a slow push.

edit: Haha, he beat me to it, yeah that ^^

[Ed Kennell 45,445]

I found I can push my 1100s be jiggling the motion lever around neutral.    No bypass tow valves on the Eaton 1100s or the 700s.   The 700s are nearly impossible to push.

[Handy Don 16,074]

There is a technical basis for the “slow push” that’s kinda interesting to me--but just skip this post if you aren’t interested!

 

In order to “soften” the transition from standing still to moving, Eaton incorporated what it called acceleration valves. These let some of the fluid from the hydro pump go around the hydro motor while the motor was coming up to speed (I,e, accelerating). So instead of a sudden, jerky start, it’s possible to“ease into” forward or reverse motion. The valves close once the differential pressure between the pump-motor link and the reservoir reaches a preset level so that no power is wasted after the tractor gets moving. 

Why this explanation? Pushing the tractor causes the hydro motor to become a hydro pump and it is the acceleration valves that let fluid being pumped bypass the normal pump which, with the engine off, blocks any flow through it. Pushing too fast causes the valves to close just as they would if the tractor was being driven by the usual mechanism. 

 

Lastly, some have noticed (disconcertingly) that an Eaton 1100 tractor will pick up speed on its own when creeping downhill--the hydro will not hold the tractor back like a geared tractor until the acceleration valves close. 

Edited 51 minutes ago by Handy Don

[Darb1964 1,155]

If it's been sitting for a long time the fluid will settle and they will push much easier. 

[sqrlgtr 2,370]

Idk if its supposed to but I can push the 520 I've been working on without putting in (neutral) it's got the foot control so can't put in neutral and push at the same time .

[Mike'sHorseBarn 3,446]

Idk why, but i disengaged the belt between your legs and it moved pretty easy.

 

 

[Mike'sHorseBarn 3,446]

[kpinnc 17,560]

50 minutes ago, Mike'sHorseBarn said:

Idk why, but i disengaged the belt between your legs and it moved pretty easy.

 

Congrats on the 314-H. That is alot of tractor! 

[Mike'sHorseBarn 3,446]

1 hour ago, kpinnc said:

 

Congrats on the 314-H. That is alot of tractor! 

 

Thanks! I never had a horse this new and im excited to put it to work!

[Bill D 2,679]

Congratulations on that 314H!  Great tractor.  Love the bagger setup as well.

 

Personally I hate the hydro controls on the column so I built foot pedals for all of mine.  

[Ed Kennell 45,445]

44 minutes ago, Bill D said:

 

Personally I hate the hydro controls on the column so I built foot pedals for all of mine.

                                    

[cleat 8,855]

1 hour ago, Bill D said:

Congratulations on that 314H!  Great tractor.  Love the bagger setup as well.

 

Personally I hate the hydro controls on the column so I built foot pedals for all of mine.  

 

I also second that.

[parsonsponyz 308]

Nice looking tractor, good score.  I think you will enjoy it regardless of it being newer.

[WHX?? 55,774]

With a bagger! Nice Mike 

Let us know what it takes to get it running. 

[953 nut 64,742]

12 hours ago, Mike'sHorseBarn said:

it moved pretty easy.

                                                     Looks like it was well cared for.

Having been sitting for years all the oil has drained to the sumo as @Darb1964 said above.

[sqrlgtr 2,370]

1 hour ago, Bill D said:

Personally I hate the hydro controls on the column so I built foot pedals for all of mine.  

 

Guess I'm in the minority I just can't get comfortable with the foot control, but around here you have to be able to slide around on the seat to keep right side up . I can see the foot control being handy pushing with dozer blade or using front end loader though. BTW great score on the 314-H.

[Mike'sHorseBarn 3,446]

2 hours ago, Bill D said:

Personally I hate the hydro controls on the column so I built foot pedals for all of mine.  

Honestly I don't mind the column hydro controls, when i was growing up my dad had the old red cub cadet's that had the column hydro's so I got used to it. 

 

1 hour ago, WHX?? said:

Let us know what it takes to get it running. 

 

Will do! Hopefully I can start digging into it tonight!

 

1 hour ago, 953 nut said:

                                                     Looks like it was well cared for.

Having been sitting for years all the oil has drained to the sumo as @Darb1964 said above.

 

Good, it didn't run so I was a little nervous about the hydro pump. It seems like it was well cared for, the guy I got it from, it was his grandfather's and he bought it new. He passed away a few years ago and it sat since then. The battery has a 2020 date on it so it hasn't been sitting horribly long. He had a 1054, a 1075 and an 854 sitting there as well as a tub cart, but he didn't want to part with any of that lol I told him I didn't blame him. 

[lynnmor 8,690]

1 hour ago, sqrlgtr said:

 

Guess I'm in the minority I just can't get comfortable with the foot control, but around here you have to be able to slide around on the seat to keep right side up . I can see the foot control being handy pushing with dozer blade or using front end loader though. BTW great score on the 314-H.

 

I never could understand the need for a foot control, I have dozer blades, snowblowers and a loader and get by just fine with the hand control.  I don't want a contraption taking up space on the running board getting in the way of my size 12W boots.  I have a treadle pedal on my Kubota and it is a PITA, not because of my shoe size but the need to keep finding the D@!% thing.

[Bill D 2,679]

How many hours on it?

[Mike'sHorseBarn 3,446]

Just now, Bill D said:

How many hours on it?

 

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