Kohler 14 hp

[Joshyg 1]

Does anyone know the difference between the Kohler k321as and the k321s

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[WHX?? 55,590]

AS has the short base for short frame and later shaker plate tractors. 

Edited 15 hours ago by WHX??

[JCM 10,909]

6 hours ago, WHX?? said:

AS has the short base for short frame and later shaker plate tractors. 

Whose better than you.     

[Joshyg 1]

Will a k321s fit on a c145

[pfrederi 20,034]

You will have to remove the shakerplate set up and make a lower mount for the PTO hoop.  If the K321 oil pan isn't drilled and tapped for bolts on the PTO side you may have to use J hooks.

[Pullstart 69,148]

But the engine block is all the same.  I’d suggest if you have a donor engine, use its oil pan and run it.    If not, that’s ok too.  Just make sure that the crankshaft height is where it needs to be, for the belt guard to properly clutch with the belt.  

Edited 5 hours ago by Pullstart

[Achto 31,224]

3 hours ago, Pullstart said:

But the engine block is all the same.

 

Not always true. There are 2 different block configuration where the oil pan mounts. I was going to convert my pulling engine from a shaker mount oil pan to a frame mount oil pan and could not.  

 

Note: Oil pan bolts run from the bottom through the oil pan and thread into the block.

 

This engine the bolts run from the top through the block and thread into the oil pan.

[Pullstart 69,148]

Good call.  Yeah, I probably knew that too.. 

[kpinnc 17,442]

4 hours ago, pfrederi said:

If the K321 oil pan isn't drilled and tapped for bolts on the PTO side you may have to use J hooks.

 

If you have a drill press and tap set you can easily drill and tap the oil pan to work with a Wheel Horse direct bolt on. I've done several and they are identical to factory. 

 

I'm not a fan of J hooks for this application, but it will work so long as they don't stretch or bend. 

 

The blocks that have the tabs holding the oil pan (see below) are the ones I am referring to. 

 

Edited 2 hours ago by kpinnc

[WHX?? 55,590]

50 minutes ago, Pullstart said:

Yeah, I probably knew that too.

Or you woulda fingered it out toot sweet like we did ... 

[WHX?? 55,590]

45 minutes ago, kpinnc said:

drill press and tap set you can easily drill and tap

You lost me there for a second KP but I think I see the light. 

Are the bosses in the pan to do it or don't need them? 

46 minutes ago, kpinnc said:

J hooks for this application, but it will work so long as they don't stretch or bend. 

I don't think yer gonna do that to a 3/8 J bolt! 

[kpinnc 17,442]

30 minutes ago, WHX?? said:

Are the bosses in the pan to do it or don't need them? 

 

To match up to an OEM pan, the two holes on the PTO side that hold the pan on have to pass all the way through the pan. 

 

The factory bolt holes in the pan have a beveled cut in the bottom so drilling them with a 1/8 bit from the top on your drill press is easy and they remain centered. 

 

Then you flip the pan over and re-drill with a 5/16 bit using the 1/8 hole as a pilot hole. 

 

Flip the pan again and tap from the top with a 3/8 tap so the threads are continuous all the way through. 

 

Simple. Just don't do this without using a drill press. Handheld drilling tends to "walk" around and will allow the initial 1/8 drill to drift off center.