Lost Pup 183 #1 Posted 13 hours ago During this years snow cleanup , my PTO on the loader 418C just self destructed. Put the bell into my lathe and cleaned out the debris a bit. The bearing shell finally released. Parts arrive from RockAuto. I did have a Koyo bearing to compair to the Timkin. Both appear to be quality items. Don’t forget to search the web for their rock auto 5% off coupon. Some parts cleanup and install the new Timken outer bearing and the SKF inner grease seal. Back in action. Comment Wecome 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lost Pup 183 #2 Posted 13 hours ago (edited) That bearing shell race was frozen solid in place. The lathe and a carbide tool and a few red hot shower curls and it released. You can see the curl nest in the pic above. I flushed the inner bearing with allot of brake clean and air nozzle to clean it out. The PTO pin itself pressed inward and was rubbing again the outer edge of the nose on the bell when it failed. Edited 13 hours ago by Lost Pup Fix 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ri702bill 11,409 #3 Posted 13 hours ago Did you also dress the friction surface, as it is quite pitted? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lost Pup 183 #4 Posted 13 hours ago 1 minute ago, ri702bill said: Did you also dress the friction surface, as it is quite pitted? The pic shows after I dressed it. It was really bad before. Before I remove material on the lathe I want it see how it performs. I can skim it up on the lathe if needed. I picked up an extra PTO at the last show. Ready in the wings. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lynnmor 8,646 #5 Posted 10 hours ago 2 hours ago, Lost Pup said: During this years snow cleanup , my PTO on the loader 418C just self destructed. Put the bell into my lathe and cleaned out the debris a bit. The bearing shell finally released. Parts arrive from RockAuto. I did have a Koyo bearing to compair to the Timkin. Both appear to be quality items. Don’t forget to search the web for their rock auto 5% off coupon. Some parts cleanup and install the new Timken outer bearing and the SKF inner grease seal. Back in action. It appears that the outer snap ring groove is no longer there, please tell me I am wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
76c12091520h 4,124 #6 Posted 10 hours ago 20 minutes ago, lynnmor said: It appears that the outer snap ring groove is no longer there, please tell me I am wrong. I was thinking the same thing......seeing that alot these days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
8ntruck 8,629 #7 Posted 8 hours ago I've got a cone clutch bell from my C-195 that the nose is worn past the C clip groove. Been thinking about how to fix it. Maybe machine the end flat, then drill & tap for a cap with the C clip groove? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lost Pup 183 #8 Posted 4 hours ago 5 hours ago, 76c12091520h said: I was thinking the same thing......seeing that alot these days. ‘The retaining snap ring groove is intact. I will snap a pic when I quick paint the parts. I did face the nose a small bit when I cleaned it up on the lathe. The center bearing slowly gave out over time until the PTO pin slowly bent inward in use as the bearing collapsed. This dumb operator on the loader ( me) just kept tightened the PTO arm up and continuing to work but the PTO pin pin bent so as to be cut off . 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 45,618 #9 Posted 1 hour ago (edited) Could be the case of too good a quality bearing. I use a $4.00 PP204RR6 Napa bearing. When it fails it usually starts to smoke or stink or both. I keep a spare PTO bell on the shelf and swap it out and keep going. Then I fix the bad one as the spare. This keeps damage to a minimum. I think I have changed 2 bearings in 15 years. Edited 1 hour ago by squonk 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
