Free Lift Cables

[WHX?? 54,940]

Well maybe not quite free but dang cheap.  

No offense Lowell  but they can get somewhat pricey when one has more than one tractor.

No idea if this will work but won't be for lack of tryin. 

Hardware store cable with a blob of braze on the end. 

[c-series don 11,365]

I’m really curious to see if that works!👍🏻

[WHX?? 54,940]

Here's one that will get the real test. Off the 1054 that broke when I was installing The @Pullstart's new drainage ditch.

Brand new and again if Lowell was just down the road I know he'd give me a new one. 

For those who don't know about the weight of a long beam 953/1054 plow the cable sees humongous stress. 

This is why not having an extra on the plow field can put you out of action for the day. 

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[Handy Don 15,931]

It’ll be up to the cable strength where the heat of the braze might have affected its temper and how well the braze penetrated into the braid for adhesion.

Frankly, I’m glad someone is giving this a try! Good luck 🤞 👍 😀

[WHX?? 54,940]

2 minutes ago, Handy Don said:

heat of the braze might have affected its temper and how well the braze penetrated into the braid f

One thing that might affect it ... temper temper ... but flowed in the braid like water. 

As they say nothing ventured nothing gained. 

[Pullstart 68,878]

If the women don’t find you handsome, they should at least find you handy!

[squonk 45,499]

Make sure you drive it across your "yard " at high speed in transport mode. 

[adsm08 4,195]

34 minutes ago, Pullstart said:

If the women don’t find you handsome, they should at least find you handy!

 

They find me handsy. Is that close enough?

[John2189 563]

They sell crimp on ends for cable. 

[ri702bill 11,253]

1 hour ago, WHX?? said:

Well maybe not quite free but dang cheap.  

No offense Lowell  but they can get somewhat pricey when one has more than one tractor.

No idea if this will work but won't be for lack of tryin. 

Hardware store cable with a blob of braze on the end. 

Do they come with the exclusive "Tail light Warranty"?? It excludes everything!! 

[ineedanother 1,869]

We have a 20 ton press at work and I've considered crimping these a try. https://www.uscargocontrol.com/collections/single-shank-ball-swage-stainless-steel-t316

 

I've also considered running parallel lift cables but the only thing I lift is a tiller which just hasn't motivated me enough yet...

[Pullstart 68,878]

1 hour ago, John2189 said:

They sell crimp on ends for cable. 

its astounding the pressure these cables must hold up to.i’m not saying that wouldn’t work, but that might not work.

[AlexR 2,586]

Another option is this brake cable from napa around $20 and you can get 2 cables out of it, by cutting it in half. It's handled everything I have thrown at it.

Or since this is for around a 2004 Chevy crew cab brake cable you can get it for free by cutting it out of @Pullstart's truck 

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[WHX?? 54,940]

2 hours ago, squonk said:

Make sure you drive it across Kevin's "yard " at high speed in transport mode. 

There fixed that for ya. 

 

1 hour ago, John2189 said:

They sell crimp on ends for cable. 

Yep thought of that and had one in my grubby mitts but I couldn't get enough crimp on it. 

 

59 minutes ago, ineedanother said:

I've considered crimping these a try

I'm sure that's what Lowell uses and if a guy could make a die for his HF press. 

 

13 minutes ago, AlexR said:

brake cable from napa

Does that come with the plastic coating on it? I like that ...smooth operation greasy Pete approved. What did you use for the crimp? 

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[ineedanother 1,869]

6 minutes ago, WHX?? said:

 

I'm sure that's what Lowell uses and if a guy could make a die for his HF press. 

 

Exactly my thought. My hydraulic hand crimper has carbon steel inserts but I suspect I could crush them in my floor press.

[AlexR 2,586]

13 minutes ago, WHX?? said:

Does that come with the plastic coating on it? I like that ...smooth operation greasy Pete approved. What did you use for the crimp? 

Yes it does come with the coating on it,

No need to crimp, both ends are already factory crimped the same. All you have to do is cut in little less then half and cable clamp the other end at the lift lever. (Not completely sure on the length needed for some of those other tractors like your 1054 may only be able to do one)

[kpinnc 17,149]

4 hours ago, AlexR said:

 

 

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[JoeM 9,616]

I tried this contraption a few years ago, worked pretty good.

 

 

[Retired Wrencher 6,448]

12 hours ago, Pullstart said:

If the women don’t find you handsome, they should at least find you handy!

Kev that is and old saying that still works today. 

[953 nut 64,104]

14 hours ago, Handy Don said:

It’ll be up to the cable strength where the heat of the braze might have affected its temper and how well the braze penetrated into the braid for adhesion.

Frankly, I’m glad someone is giving this a try! Good luck 🤞 👍 😀

The first home-made lift cable with a big glob of braze I made up didn't last very long, broke right near the braze. 

11 hours ago, WHX?? said:

I'm sure that's what Lowell uses and if a guy could make a die for his HF press. 

I cut "V" notches in a couple pieces of scrap steel to make a die. They were a PITA to align but got the job done.

[Handy Don 15,931]

7 hours ago, JoeM said:

I tried this contraption a few years ago, worked pretty good.

Interesting since this appears to double the amount of cable pull for a given amount of lift lever movement. What effect did that have on the implements being lifted?

[JoeM 9,616]

19 minutes ago, Handy Don said:

Interesting since this appears to double the amount of cable pull for a given amount of lift lever movement. What effect did that have on the implements being lifted?

Successful, I never calculated the total advantage, but the load was manageable. I used components that fit. 

 

the whole idea was born from an extra heavy box scraper. thinking with the manual lift It was less work to raise the heavy load. 

I later went to a hydro and the issue was null. 

I suppose the concept would work, say a given load like a tiller, could be lifted with a lot less effort using the sheave, while reducing the stress on the connection, just from an mechanical advantage??

 

[8ntruck 8,601]

31 minutes ago, Handy Don said:

Interesting since this appears to double the amount of cable pull for a given amount of lift lever movement. What effect did that have on the implements being lifted?

Drawback, though.  This setup will also double the force required to lift the implement.

[WHX?? 54,940]

14 minutes ago, 8ntruck said:

double the force required to lift the implement.

I'm lost Truck ... I would think it would greatly decrease the force required? Kinda like a $natch block for a winch.

 

No matter Joe that's using the old noggin for other than a hat rack. 

 

1 hour ago, 953 nut said:

broke right near the braze.

What I'm afraid of Richard. Oh well it's a experiment. 

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