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Had The Pullstart pick me one at the BS couple years ago. 

Went to install it on a 8 HP and could not get it to quit rubbing. 

No wonder they are not all the same size. The ones with the three indents are larger than ones without. Especially on the SG end.

Smaller ones are for a 7 HP????? 

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wallfish

Hmmm. I've never really noticed that either but all the 7s I've had were pull starts. Maybe go with a 30" belt instead of a 31.5" :dunno:

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WHX??
41 minutes ago, wallfish said:

go with a 30" belt

Thought of that too but was in githerdone so robbed from peter to pay paul. 

2nd pic it looks bigger but it's not just the pic. 

Spent a hour of my life trying to get it to fit. There's an hour I won't get back. :lol:

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wallfish
19 minutes ago, WHX?? said:

Spent a hour of my life trying to get it to fit. There's an hour I won't get back

All perspective. There's an hour you learned something too. Learning what not to do is just as important as learning what to do. It ain't gonna take you an hour the next time!

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1 minute ago, wallfish said:

There's an hour you learned something too.

Yah ... learned to not let Kev do my shopping ... :lol:

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Mike'sHorseBarn

This is something I didn't know!

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ri702bill

AND there are a couple more variants... The 701 double-pulley belt guard, and the 702 style - similar to the one without the ribs, but has a much smaller dimple at the small end, not a full circle...

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Racinbob

This is the 7hp I replaced the 8hp on my 854. It was a yank start so I put all the goodies from the 8 on to the 7 from the flywheel out to convert to s/g. If it's the grass screen rubbing could it be that it is a different screen? Note how the shroud is fully outside of the screen. 

 

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squonk
12 hours ago, WHX?? said:

Had The Pullstart pick me one at the BS couple years ago. 

Went to install it on a 8 HP and could not get it to quit rubbing. 

No wonder they are not all the same size. The ones with the three indents are larger than ones without. Especially on the SG end.

Smaller ones are for a 7 HP????? 

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2 different Gen pulleys? Remember I have a 7 and 8 on the bench with the 2 pulleys and that may be the difference? 

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WHX??
4 hours ago, squonk said:

2 different Gen pulleys? 

Would stand to reason the smaller guard would have a smaller pulley. Might matter if it was the short or long SG?

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squonk

2 small blocks on the bench. Closest one is an 8. Had the larger guard with the 3 lines. 

 

3" pulley.

 

Farther one is a 7. Came with no guard. 3 1/8" pulley.

 

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Chris G

I can double check but I do believe those are actually listed with different part number, In the Kohler engine books i have

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WHX??
7 hours ago, Chris G said:

different part number,

You mean the guards? I'm sure they do. 

Are those both the longer starter Squonky? 

Anybody got a 161 they can measure the pully? 

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squonk
6 minutes ago, WHX?? said:

You mean the guards? I'm sure they do. 

Are those both the longer starter Squonky? 

Anybody got a 161 they can measure the pully? 

Yes both long gens and that one to the right is a 161. 3 1/8" OD

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702854boy
6 minutes ago, WHX?? said:

Anybody got a 161 they can measure the pully? 

We have a 62 161 that I could go out and measure the pulley on tomorrow. It has the short s/g and no bump in the guard. I'll also uploaded photos if others don't beat me to it.

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Retired Wrencher

The 2nd one to the right is that for an 855 and 856? Also did a 64 8 hp models have that same belt guard?

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Retired Wrencher
19 hours ago, squonk said:

2 small blocks on the bench. Closest one is an 8. Had the larger guard with the 3 lines. 

 

3" pulley.

 

Farther one is a 7. Came with no guard. 3 1/8" pulley.

 

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That’s interesting  Mike. I’ve always had a start gen belt that I bought from the dealership years ago and it never worked and it was too long so the information that you supplied is the reason why that belt never fit what I had.

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Handy Don

I have the “no indent” cover on the 854 with a short gen. No reason to believe these aren’t original. 

The IPL belt turned out to be too short which kept the generator tight up against the regulator and had the pulley rubbing the guard. Slightly longer belt solved both issues.

I suspect there might be small and large versions of the “no indent”.  I’ll measure mine later. 

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WHX??
6 hours ago, Retired Wrencher said:

start gen

Looks like your club badge is becoming a big hit Wrencher! You might want to resize yours down a tad I keep thinking it's a link to another thread! I sure @Blue Chips can help you out with that. :)

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Lane Ranger

Add the 1045 s/g guard vs other 10 hp guards and you have even more variety!  
 

 

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