dandan111 56 #1 Posted yesterday at 02:41 PM I bought this tractor new. Wondering if I have always kept too much oil in it. Chat gpt tells me the 314 takes 1.5 quarts. 2 quarts it still says add on the stick? Chat GPT says don’t add anymore? I’ve always kind of suspected 2 quarts was about right but it’s more like 2.5 to show full. My plug has always been oily, figured that was nature of the beast. Chat GPT also say it’s better to run a little low vs over full.. What do you guys think about this AI giving me the business! Also I’m running Napa 10w 30 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 19,600 #2 Posted yesterday at 02:51 PM Magnums could have a variety of oil pans each would require a different amount of oil. I doubt AI knows which pan you have. Use the dipstick. 1 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dandan111 56 #3 Posted yesterday at 02:58 PM I did question the oil pan for a Wheel Horse 314. It said yes it could be different but stayed firm at 1.5 quarts. It also told me the tube could be wrong. Not seated correctly.. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Achto 30,637 #4 Posted yesterday at 03:36 PM Most AI crap that I have seen is just that. Accuracy does not seem to be an important part of AI. I could go off on some AI tractor documentary video's that I watched that couldn't more wrong if they tried, but I'll stop. If it has the factory dip stick, consider that as accurate. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lynnmor 8,453 #5 Posted yesterday at 03:56 PM Lose the AI crap, then find the correct information here. Kohler has high zinc oil that would be perfect for your engine. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Treepep 996 #6 Posted yesterday at 04:05 PM 1 hour ago, dandan111 said: I bought this tractor new. Wondering if I have always kept too much oil in it. Chat gpt tells me the 314 takes 1.5 quarts. 2 quarts it still says add on the stick? Chat GPT says don’t add anymore? I’ve always kind of suspected 2 quarts was about right but it’s more like 2.5 to show full. My plug has always been oily, figured that was nature of the beast. Chat GPT also say it’s better to run a little low vs over full.. What do you guys think about this AI giving me the business! Also I’m running Napa 10w 30 Why listen to that nonsense when you have this Site? I have a neighbor whose coworker did their office job entirely with chat. It is inaccurate tech. AI is like a two year old. Still wets the bed often 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 19,600 #7 Posted yesterday at 04:15 PM All the M14 with the long tube use the same tube and as it is screwed into the block not seated correctly is AI BS There is a difference in dip sticks. What is the spec number of your engine? Then we can make sure you have the correct dip stick (there is a 1/4" difference) 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dandan111 56 #8 Posted yesterday at 05:34 PM I think the AI is interesting. I do question it sometimes but find it fun to interact with. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sqrlgtr 2,007 #9 Posted yesterday at 06:21 PM Still comes down to the old saying "junk in junk out". 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
clueless 3,347 #10 Posted yesterday at 07:32 PM My 1987 312-8 magnum takes 2qts, the 14hp is the same engine with a couple more hp everything else is the same. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lynnmor 8,453 #11 Posted 22 hours ago 4 hours ago, dandan111 said: I think the AI is interesting. I do question it sometimes but find it fun to interact with. I do everything I can to get that nonsense out of my computer and phone. If folks would just look around and see how much society has degenerated because of this type of BS maybe then we can return to the path of real intelligence. 3 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dandan111 56 #12 Posted 21 hours ago I’m afraid we’d have to shut the internet down at this point, then how would we order or Amazon packages? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lynnmor 8,453 #13 Posted 21 hours ago 6 minutes ago, dandan111 said: I’m afraid we’d have to shut the internet down at this point, then how would we order or Amazon packages? Sounds like they got you hooked, sorry to hear that. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrc 1,041 #14 Posted 21 hours ago hi dandan111, i agree 1000% with the other members here. ditch the AI. i run my kohler magnum14 with 2.5 quarts of high zinc oil. rotella T straight 30w. running for years without problems. regards mike 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sqrlgtr 2,007 #15 Posted 21 hours ago (edited) 8 minutes ago, mrc said: rotella T straight 30w. Edited 21 hours ago by sqrlgtr 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeM 9,466 #16 Posted 6 hours ago The magnum 12 I put on Frankie the power steering project tractor took 2 and about 1/3 quarts. It had some leaks around the bottom oil sump and output seal. I had it disassembled and the sump was cleaned and completely empty, filled using the dipstick. I use 5w40 full syn diesel oil in all my machines, the new multi vis full synthetic oils are far better then the old straight weight stuff. Especially when it comes to heat transfer in air cooled engines. But if your stuck in the past just stay away from the "lack of brand and weight oil!" I see a lot of AI comments. Keep in mind the AI we are using is in it's infancy. Plus it is using information, well lets just say some of that is not qualified. I compare it to going into an operating room and seeing a rusty knife, bottle of whiskey and a bullet on the tray. Not even close to what goes on today. AI in the science and medical areas has the extreme potential for improving care and development. Just imagine a Dr. trying to solve a problem and having thousands of qualified case studies at his finger tips. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,937 #17 Posted 6 hours ago When and why the oil capacity was increased 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeM 9,466 #18 Posted 4 hours ago 1 hour ago, gwest_ca said: the oil capacity was increased Interesting, so they increased the oil level to compensate for the oil level shut down switch. Does this mean the Kohler flat head engines are not affected by a little over fill? Like a pint over fill? The more oil in the sump has a lot of benefits. Cooling, contaminant concentration, etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrc 1,041 #19 Posted 3 hours ago another reason i run a little extra oil is to compensate for operating on slopes with just a splash lube engine. i recall seeing some info years ago from kohler saying a certain degree slope was ok to run on. 15 degrees??? if i remember correctly. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites