Armstrong

[Wishin4a416 2,430]

When did Armstrong discontinue the Super Turfs? They came new on my 87 312-8. I always thought they were much more aggressive than the Carlisle's when in good shape. Anyway I am pulling 2 that are worn out and replacing with ags.  They will go on the 310 I picked up a month. 

[Sparky-(Admin) 24,344]

No idea when it was discontinued. Weren’t they a bit smaller at 22x9.00x12? 

[Wishin4a416 2,430]

38 minutes ago, Sparky said:

No idea when it was discontinued. Weren’t they a bit smaller at 22x9.00x12? 

You are correct. But they ran big. Here it is deflated and beside a 23x8.50-12

[Lee1977 7,523]

Best guess it that they were used between 87 and 89 my 312-8  with a Kohler Magnum had them 

Don't know the year of the 312 came with mismatched parts. Bent hood with a professional paint job, and a fender that looked like it was painted with a Pine top

[kpinnc 16,695]

6 hours ago, Wishin4a416 said:

When did Armstrong discontinue the Super Turfs?

 

That tread design is still out there. I had a set of Dico (garbage) in that style. And yeah that design looks and works very well. Mine just didn't last long before getting cracks all over them. About 5 years, and they were always stored off the ground. Made no sense! 

 

I still use the rears with tubes installed, but wish they would have lasted longer. 

[Wishin4a416 2,430]

30 minutes ago, kpinnc said:

 

That tread design is still out there. I had a set of Dico (garbage) in that style. And yeah that design looks and works very well. Mine just didn't last long before getting cracks all over them. About 5 years, and they were always stored off the ground. Made no sense! 

 

I still use the rears with tubes installed, but wish they would have lasted longer. 

I got 37 years and 2100 hours out of them so I guess I did good. They are cracked and dry rotted real bad. Time to give em up.

[kpinnc 16,695]

5 hours ago, Wishin4a416 said:

I got 37 years and 2100 hours out of them

 

You got your money's worth! 

[Treepep 977]

 

 

Jeesh,  other than me and a few tools I cannot picture too many items that lasted 37 years!  Take the win!

[Retired Wrencher 6,287]

10 hours ago, kpinnc said:

 

That tread design is still out there. I had a set of Dico (garbage) in that style. And yeah that design looks and works very well. Mine just didn't last long before getting cracks all over them. About 5 years, and they were always stored off the ground. Made no sense! 

 

I still use the rears with tubes installed, but wish they would have lasted longer. 

@kpinnc   My brother did some research he told me for a long-term storage or when you’re not using your vehicle he uses heavy duty, cardboard or wood. He says it saves the tires from rot. So since then, all the tractors, ****, on heavy box folded flat. So far so good it’s been about five years now. 

Edited Sunday at 11:21 AM by Retired Wrencher

[sqrlgtr 1,850]

17 hours ago, Wishin4a416 said:

They will go on the 310 I picked up a month. 

 

10 hours ago, Wishin4a416 said:

I got 37 years and 2100 hours out of them so I guess I did good. They are cracked and dry rotted real bad. Time to give em up.

 

if I read this right you are going to put them on a 310 after serving 37 years on 312, yeah?? Clearly defective and dealer should be contacted .

[Wishin4a416 2,430]

55 minutes ago, sqrlgtr said:

 

 

if I read this right you are going to put them on a 310 after serving 37 years on 312, yeah?? Clearly defective and dealer should be contacted .

Anyway I am pulling 2 that are worn out and replacing with ags. 

No. Lpl. Ags are on the way. These have served their purpose.

Edited Sunday at 12:55 PM by Wishin4a416

[kpinnc 16,695]

3 hours ago, Retired Wrencher said:

My brother did some research he told me for a long-term storage or when you’re not using your vehicle he uses heavy duty, cardboard or wood.

 

Yep. Mine stay on boards all winter. 

[Wishin4a416 2,430]

 Through ice and sleet and snow. They made it here.

[Retired Wrencher 6,287]

19 hours ago, kpinnc said:

 

Yep. Mine stay on boards all winter. 

It was something about the constant contact with moisture from the floor, especially in a winter time. I think summer is fine. Have a good day.

[sqrlgtr 1,850]

12 hours ago, Wishin4a416 said:

 Through ice and sleet and snow. They made it here.

 

What size and brand did you get? I'm a big fan of the traditional ag tread design. 

[Wishin4a416 2,430]

Those are Deestone 23 x 10.50's. They run small. Measure a true 8 1/2 wide  but thats OK. I have another set on the 312 and like them.

[sqrlgtr 1,850]

5 minutes ago, Wishin4a416 said:

Those are Deestone 23 x 10.50's. They run small. Measure a true 8 1/2 wide  but thats OK. I have another set on the 312 and like them.

Yeah, only fault I can find with them, they run a little small, but I have had great luck with them front and back. They wear great and don't seem to dry rot/crack over time like some of the others I've seen.

[702854boy 418]

What's the big deal with dry rot on a tractor tire? I've seen some people on here replacing their tires because of dry rot but in my mind since these aren't going 60 mph like a car. I would think dry rot isn't going to be a big problem and as long as none of the cords or anything are damaged, if it leaks a little bit of air you could just put tubes in them and keep running them

[kpinnc 16,695]

27 minutes ago, 702854boy said:

What's the big deal with dry rot on a tractor tire? I've seen some people on here replacing their tires because of dry rot but in my mind since these aren't going 60 mph like a car. I would think dry rot isn't going to be a big problem and as long as none of the cords or anything are damaged, if it leaks a little bit of air you could just put tubes in them and keep running them

 

For me personally, it's more disappointment than anything else. I have tires from the early 1960s that have no rot, while a set that is 5 years old (and were expensive) crack like dried out play dough. 

 

I don't expect tires to last 50 years, but 10 would be nice. Especially when I take precautions to protect them. Makes no sense whatsoever. 

 

And yes adding a tube works but a decent set of tires would not need them. 

[702854boy 418]

Just now, kpinnc said:

 

For me personally, it's more disappointment than anything else. I have tires from the early 1960s that have no rot, while a set that is 5 years old (and were expensive) crack like dried out play dough. 

 

I don't expect tires to last 50 years, but 10 would be nice. Especially when I take precautions to protect them. Makes no sense whatsoever. 

 

And yes adding a tube works but a decent set of tires would not need them. 

So its more just a "I paid good money for these why are they already going to s***" and not a usability factor?

[kpinnc 16,695]

7 hours ago, 702854boy said:

So its more just a "I paid good money for these why are they already going to s***" and not a usability factor

 

Having to spend more money (and time) for tubes is definitely a usability factor.

 

And yes, and couple hundred dollars isn't cheap. Maybe I don't own a tire tree so I dislike wasting money on things that should last. 

[Racinbob 12,510]

9 hours ago, 702854boy said:

What's the big deal with dry rot on a tractor tire? I've seen some people on here replacing their tires because of dry rot but in my mind since these aren't going 60 mph like a car. I would think dry rot isn't going to be a big problem and as long as none of the cords or anything are damaged, if it leaks a little bit of air you could just put tubes in them and keep running them

 

8 hours ago, 702854boy said:

So its more just a "I paid good money for these why are they already going to s***" and not a usability factor?

 

You nailed it Howard. It's pretty much 100% cosmetic when it comes to our little tractors. I understand that but I won't trash perfectly usable tires just cuz of some cracking. These tires I put on my 854 have some pretty heavy cracking. They were given to me from a member in PA and he told me they probably would leak slowly. They don't. A close of shot would show the cracking but the tractor is in the barn right now. It's -2° right now with a wind chill of about -4386° and I'm not going out there to take one. Looks are important to me (sometimes to much so) and I have found that Majic tire paint does a pretty decent job on cracked tires. It's not shiny and water based to it doesn't stink.

 

 

 

 

In my opinion the sun is the worse culprit for weathering tires. The Florida sun made quick work of my utility trailer tires. I would use them for local travel but when we moved up here I replaced them before the long drive up fully loaded. It still sits outside up here but I keep tire covers on them. 

 

[sqrlgtr 1,850]

1 hour ago, Racinbob said:

In my opinion the sun is the worse culprit for weathering tires.

I agree with this around these parts anyhow....

 

10 hours ago, 702854boy said:

What's the big deal with dry rot on a tractor tire? I've seen some people on here replacing their tires because of dry rot but in my mind since these aren't going 60 mph like a car. I would think dry rot isn't going to be a big problem and as long as none of the cords or anything are damaged, if it leaks a little bit of air you could just put tubes in them and keep running them

 

I changed a couple fronts the other day that was dry rotted and would leak down. I ordered two Deestones from W world and had them shipped for maybe 10 more $$'s than it would have cost to put tubes in. I have and will continue to use tires that have a few cracks in them especially the more expensive rears. I had a bad run with tubes a few years ago that came from jungle sight and recommend buying quality tubes. Ya know the old saying buy once cry once applies here, to much trouble breaking down tires because of a sub-par product.