What am I supposed to do with this??

[ML3 2,040]

This showed up today unexpectedly. 12hp Raider with a box full of parts. 

 

Guy I bought Workhorse from felt bad bout motor being bad. Last week we spoke & he offered up the 12hp & 8sp if I wanted them. He said they could offset the cost of replacement engine. Thought it was a nice gesture. Shows up today with the entire tractor!

[ebinmaine 75,665]

Got some serious potential. 

 

That should be a SIX speed which would have Limited Slip Differential. 

 

Excellent work tractor.  

[pfrederi 19,208]

Breakerless ignition.  Be very careful not to apply any voltage to the wire on the bottom of the coil. When they work breakerless are great systems no points to wear corrode or set...and timing is always spot on.

[ML3 2,040]

Thought bout using parts off it. Maybe install the 6sp in the 702 or 654?? Idk what to do with the 12hp. I dont have anything that it really would work in.......

[ri702bill 10,549]

44 minutes ago, ML3 said:

Maybe install the 6sp in the 702 or 654?

 

Not that difficult of a swap. Easier to do than an 8 speed. Input pulley is the same as a 4 speed, the brake and parking brake hook up just like a 4 speed. @Handy Don did the 6 speed swap on his 854; I did the 8 speed swap on mine....

[ML3 2,040]

6 hours ago, ri702bill said:

Not that difficult of a swap. Easier to do than an 8 speed. Input pulley is the same as a 4 speed, the brake and parking brake hook up just like a 4 speed. @Handy Don did the 6 speed swap on his 854; I did the 8 speed swap on mine....

Might put the 6sp in the 702. Honestly,  the 654 with the 3sp pushes snow & mows just fine as is.

Edited 12 hours ago by ML3

[ebinmaine 75,665]

Just now, ML3 said:

Might put the 6sp in the 702. Honestly,  the 654 with the 3sp pushes snow & mows Just fine as is.

 

The 6 speed is handy for two things in particular. Tilling in Low and using Low range for reversing in tight places. 

 

The LSD is a HUGE upgrade for plowing or other traction too.  

 

 

[ri702bill 10,549]

43 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

The 6 speed is handy for two things in particular. Tilling in Low and using Low range for reversing in tight places. 

Trimming tall grass around a tree is super easy in low range - and leaves a consistent finish to the cut.

The HUGE advantage with the 854 in low range is when using the 32" snowblower in about 6 inches of snow. Engine runs at WOT, blower going full speed, and the ground speed is a crawl to allow the snow to process thru.

[Handy Don 15,110]

As noted, for close maneuvering in tight spaces low range is invaluable, allowing plenty of time to be looking everywhere around you. 

I also use it for teaching newbs about clutches and being in a gear from dead stop and getting the feel of steering a tractor.

I also do not ride my tractors onto or off my trailer (i.e. up or down ramps) so low range gears let it go by itself with me controlling it at a safe arm’s length. (I’ve seen at least two tractors crash while being ridden up ramps while being loaded at the Big Show. Two significantly damaged tractors; one lightly damaged rider; two thoroughly frightened riders.)

Edited 17 hours ago by Handy Don

[ML3 2,040]

1 hour ago, ri702bill said:

Trimming tall grass around a tree is super easy in low range - and leaves a consistent finish to the cut.

The HUGE advantage with the 854 in low range is when using the 32" snowblower in about 6 inches of snow. Engine runs at WOT, blower going full speed, and the ground speed is a crawl to allow the snow to process thru.

Exactly what I was thinking.  Full throttle in 1st gear is still a little fast for a blower full of snow. Think having lo range w/blower would work better

Edited 16 hours ago by ML3

[ri702bill 10,549]

7 minutes ago, ML3 said:

Exactly what I was thinking.  Full throttle in 1st gear is still a little fast for a blower dull of snow. Think having lo range w/blower would work better

Ditto for using a tiller. The 1963 32" blower manual says to use 1st gear on the 4 speed at WOT and constantly use the clutch to slow down the ground speed. So close, yet so far.

[sqrlgtr 1,278]

5 hours ago, ML3 said:

This showed up today unexpectedly. 12hp Raider with a box full of parts. 

 

Guy I bought Workhorse from felt bad bout motor being bad. Last week we spoke & he offered up the 12hp & 8sp if I wanted them. He said they could offset the cost of replacement engine. Thought it was a nice gesture. Shows up today with the entire tractor!

 

U get to feeling guilty just send it my way. Heck I would even pick it up if U will split the fuel with me . 

[Sparky-(Admin) 23,970]

  That hand painted hood is straight up awesome!