rmaynard 16,595 #1 Posted yesterday at 04:49 PM My grandson Mason is starting a refresh of his Raider 12 engine. It is a K301. After removing the pan he discovered this on the bottom of the counterweights. The wear looks to me like someone's feeble attempt at balancing. Any other ideas? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 74,673 #2 Posted yesterday at 04:56 PM (edited) Believe it or not that's probably original to the Kohler factory. I have a 16 horse that looks just like that. I posted a picture of it here. I showed those pictures to my own small engine guy that rebuilds quite a lot of engines. Nobody had a problem with it. Edited yesterday at 04:56 PM by ebinmaine Correct autocorrect 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rmaynard 16,595 #3 Posted yesterday at 05:08 PM 12 minutes ago, ebinmaine said: Believe it or not that's probably original to the Kohler factory. I have a 16 horse that looks just like that. I posted a picture of it here. I showed those pictures to my own small engine guy that rebuilds quite a lot of engines. Nobody had a problem with it. Thanks Eric 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 44,679 #4 Posted yesterday at 05:09 PM Yes they didn't get carried away on making it pretty 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 19,007 #5 Posted 22 hours ago K-181crank just back from the machine shop .010 under..... Never paid attention before to the scuff marks... 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Achto 29,942 #6 Posted 21 hours ago (edited) Now that I look closer at the pics, I wonder if those grinder marks are from the foundry? Note that they are right on the casting seam. Might even be where the sprue and riser were cut off. If that's the case, the guy running the grinder at the foundry didn't care much what they looked like, as long as they passed inspection so that he could make his piece rate. Edited 21 hours ago by Achto 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ri702bill 10,125 #7 Posted 21 hours ago Mice with dentures?? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handy Don 14,742 #8 Posted 21 hours ago 52 minutes ago, Achto said: Now that I look closer at the pics, I wonder if those grinder marks are from the foundry? Note that they are right on the casting seam. Might even be where the sprue and riser were cut off. If that's the case, the guy running the grinder at the foundry didn't care much what they looked like, as long as they passed inspection so that he could make his piece rate. Definitely 👍 The appearance of the grind didn’t matter, only speed and result. Look at how coarse a wheel was used! Had a piecework job during a school summer vacation. It didn’t take me long to learn the standards, get fast, avoid scrap, and not waste a single motion. I wanted to make any money. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ri702bill 10,125 #9 Posted 20 hours ago Ah, piece rate.... Rhode Island once was the Jewelry capital of the nation. Myself and siblings had summer jobs drilling & deburring ring castings. My middle sister made a career in local jewelry, I certainly did not! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Achto 29,942 #10 Posted 18 hours ago @rmaynard Really don't mean to high jack your thread. Just want to share this video of a crank shaft being cast. This video is brought to you by OSHA. I'm not sure how any of the employees still have feet. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrc 1,001 #11 Posted 15 hours ago ........ definitely NOT osha approved! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ri702bill 10,125 #12 Posted 7 hours ago 10 hours ago, Achto said: I'm not sure how any of the employees still have feet All of them - just not quite the same "as supplied"..... Funny how none of them were hopping around once they stepped on a stray hot spot.... and I'm quite sure that the job pays quite well too - not. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 44,679 #13 Posted 6 hours ago 11 hours ago, Achto said: @rmaynard Really don't mean to high jack your thread. Just want to share this video of a crank shaft being cast. This video is brought to you by OSHA. I'm not sure how any of the employees still have feet. Friend of mine was a foreman in a local foundry. His late brother worked there as well. He acquired a nickname when he got something caught between a metal bench and a heavy casting mold. I'll leave it to your imagination! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ri702bill 10,125 #14 Posted 5 hours ago Perhaps Kevin could enlighten them as to picking the proper flip-flop for the task...!!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites