sqrlgtr 1,078 #1 Posted October 23 So replaced the brake lining on my 857 today and wanted to give a review of the brake lining I got from @rmaynard. I am very pleased with outcome. This little tractor has always been a bear to stop going backwards especially with a load behind it. I'm glad to report it has brakes going backwards know . 5 6 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rmaynard 16,589 #2 Posted October 23 39 minutes ago, sqrlgtr said: So replaced the brake lining on my 857 today and wanted to give a review of the brake lining I got from @rmaynard. I am very pleased with outcome. This little tractor has always been a bear to stop going backwards especially with a load behind it. I'm glad to report it has brakes going backwards know . Thank you for the good review. 2 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ri702bill 10,084 #3 Posted October 23 Nice! Some folks will rough up the surface of the drum with a belt sander to better grip the band... Question - what is that hanging out of the lower hole of the side of the frame below the clutch shaft?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sqrlgtr 1,078 #4 Posted October 23 @ri702bill that's just a little chain clevis/D ring, there's one on the other side also really serve no purpose but suppose you could use them to tie down tractor on trailer. I really just stuck then in there so as not to lose them. That was probably 10 years ago.... 1 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 74,604 #5 Posted October 23 3 hours ago, sqrlgtr said: So replaced the brake lining on my 857 today and wanted to give a review of the brake lining I got from @rmaynard. I am very pleased with outcome. This little tractor has always been a bear to stop going backwards especially with a load behind it. I'm glad to report it has brakes going backwards know . Excellent! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sqrlgtr 1,078 #6 Posted October 23 Just an FYI I used JB weld Clear 2 part epoxy for an adhesive just because that's all I could get on my wife's grocery pick up. It seems to be almost like the original JB but clear. Was wanting to try Goop just because you didn't have to mix anything... Will report back if this stuff don't hold up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RED-Z06 2,681 #7 Posted October 24 5 hours ago, ri702bill said: Nice! Some folks will rough up the surface of the drum with a belt sander to better grip the band... Question - what is that hanging out of the lower hole of the side of the frame below the clutch shaft?? Looks like a loop shackle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RED-Z06 2,681 #8 Posted October 24 Couple years ago i had a brake lining come loose on a C160 in high gear...i cant stress fully the amount my butt puckered before i folded the front end around the front bumper of my truck. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wallfish 18,628 #9 Posted October 24 28 minutes ago, RED-Z06 said: Couple years ago i had a brake lining come loose on a C160 in high gear...i cant stress fully the amount my butt puckered before i folded the front end around the front bumper of my truck. Did it bite a hole in your pants? 1 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RED-Z06 2,681 #10 Posted October 24 46 minutes ago, wallfish said: Did it bite a hole in your pants? Ill say this, it flippin hurt every part of me. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handy Don 14,694 #11 Posted October 24 23 hours ago, sqrlgtr said: a review of the brake lining I got from @rmaynard. I am very pleased with outcome. I did mine a year or so ago and am similarly pleased. Brakes work great, but I have to pay much better attention to traction after a 20 foot slide down the steep grade dodging trees (fortunately the steering was working well!) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 62,218 #12 Posted October 25 17 hours ago, Handy Don said: I did mine a year or so ago and am similarly pleased. Brakes work great, but I have to pay much better attention to traction after a 20 foot slide down the steep grade dodging trees (fortunately the steering was working well!) That is the biggest shortcoming of the brakes on most garden tractors. The differential will transfer the breaking power to the tire with the least traction. I mowed my neighbor's yard for a couple of months while he recuperated from surgery. I could mow UP the steep incline without a problem but coming down was a thrill ride. I worked out a different pattern of mowing to avoid that. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RED-Z06 2,681 #13 Posted October 25 53 minutes ago, 953 nut said: That is the biggest shortcoming of the brakes on most garden tractors. The differential will transfer the breaking power to the tire with the least traction. I mowed my neighbor's yard for a couple of months while he recuperated from surgery. I could mow UP the steep incline without a problem but coming down was a thrill ride. I worked out a different pattern of mowing to avoid that. Why ive always liked GTs with brakes at the hub on each side...or internal brakes with a locker. The Tuff Torq K91/K92 for example only has an internal wet disc brake..but when the brake is depressed it also applies the diff locker. Something I wish WH had adopted is a locker. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handy Don 14,694 #14 Posted October 26 On 10/25/2025 at 9:54 AM, RED-Z06 said: Something I wish WH had adopted is a locker. @Oldskool added dual disc brakes on both axles between the transaxle casing and the hub to one of his tractors. I’ve thought long about copying that! The split brake also helps overcome loss of traction on one wheel for “go" as well as “stop." 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 74,604 #15 Posted October 26 1 hour ago, Handy Don said: @Oldskool added dual disc brakes on both axles between the transaxle casing and the hub to one of his tractors. I’ve thought long about copying that! The split brake also helps overcome loss of traction on one wheel for “go" as well as “stop." Yepp. That was the Hiram tractor. Excellent design. I've considered it too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sqrlgtr 1,078 #16 Posted October 26 7 minutes ago, ebinmaine said: Yepp. That was the Hiram tractor. Excellent design. I've considered it too. I would like to see that set up. Is this something I could find on Red Square? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handy Don 14,694 #17 Posted October 26 (edited) Sorry, brain blip. He used drums not discs. Here is a post in the thread. Post #431 has a near-finished image. Go back and forth to see more. If I were doing it, I’d probably try to use go-cart discs (if I could get them with 1.125” bore) and calipers. Edited October 26 by Handy Don 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
