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Retired Wrencher

I see a lot of you guys like to use a bolt and nut to hold on your rims and tires. I think I’d like to do that on the 1056 I have. I would like to put my 22s on for the winter with chains. Today I lock wired the chains so I do not have to put on and take them off and off . so that would be a nice feature. This will be just for a winter plowing. Then I’d take them off and put the 23s back on it just looks a lot easier to do it that way instead of trying to lift up the tire and rim with chains on or just regular tires and rims any info that you would have would be much appreciated.

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702854boy
9 minutes ago, Retired Wrencher said:

I see a lot of you guys like to use a bolt and nut to hold on your rims and tires. I think I’d like to do that on the 1056 I have. I would like to put my 22s on for the winter with chains. Today I lock wired the chains so I do not have to put on and take them off and off . so that would be a nice feature. This will be just for a winter plowing. Then I’d take them off and put the 23s back on it just looks a lot easier to do it that way instead of trying to lift up the tire and rim with chains on or just regular tires and rims any info that you would have would be much appreciated.

2 1/2 to 3 inch 7/16 20 bolts and 1950s and 1960s gm lug nuts will work.

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SylvanLakeWH

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Chaz54
9 minutes ago, 702854boy said:

2 1/2 to 3 inch 7/16 20 bolts and 1950s and 1960s gm lug nuts will work.

You won’t find bolts 2 1/2 to 3 inch lg. with the thread completely up to the head, 1 1/4 inch long is longest you’ll find.

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kpinnc
21 minutes ago, Chaz54 said:

1 1/4 inch long is longest you’ll find.

 

No need for anything longer. I've used this size on all my tractors and they work as stud for wheels and for using spacers. 

 

One suggestion- use 4 bolts per wheel and keep one open for the OEM bolts. One hole is very close to the setscrew for the hub (see pic below) and makes loosening the setscrew a bit tricky. Use 7/16×20 bolts on the other four for each wheel from the back with lug nuts and they will line the wheel up nicely so you can add the 5th as a bolt from the front. 

 

Most lug nuts are 1/2×20. Make sure you get 7/16×20 lug nuts. The jungle site has them cheap. 

 

 

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JoeM

I've used these 1 1/2" long ones from MMC and they work fine. Use with removable thread locker. 242

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ri702bill

An observation - the underside of the hex heads on the bolts seem to not be seated on the back of the hub, most likely due to the last thread at the head being imperfect. With the hub removed, I like to clean up the hub and chamfer the back of the hole to allow the hexbolt to bottom...

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peter lena

@kpinnc @ri702bill  just the idea of improving A  REPEDITIVE ISSUE , is the most important  part of this ,  in my own opinion , once you  change / correct it  , its just simply better / easier , pete  

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oliver2-44
29 minutes ago, JoeM said:

I've used these 1 1/2" long ones from MMC and they work fine. Use with removable thread locker. 242

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I recently bought the above 1-1/2" bolt from McMaster.  They are not quite full thread. i contact4d them and they said the 1/6/ 3/32 is what industry considers full thread.  so a flat washer is required on the back side, or make a small relief in the threads on the back side of the hub (which I don't exactly care for so i go the washer route.  

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WHX??
1 hour ago, ri702bill said:

underside of the hex heads on the bolts seem to not be seated on the back of the hub,

I see that Bill. Like KP's pic....I used thick flat washers too. I don't think yours are going anywhere KP ... we just being anal ... :lol:

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kpinnc
2 minutes ago, WHX?? said:

.I used thick flat washers. I don't think yours are going anywhere KP ... we just being anal ... :lol:

 

No worries at all. The washers definitely would be preferable. 

 

 

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SylvanLakeWH
5 minutes ago, WHX?? said:

I see that Bill ...I used thick flat washers. I don't think yours are going anywhere KP ... we just being anal ... :lol:

I dunno... at WOT the incredible g forces that these bolts experience... :scared-eek:

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squonk

I always put a star lock washer under the bolt head.  ( We ain't running these tractors 200 MPH at Daytona or flying them to the moon. No need to over think it.)

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adsm08
3 hours ago, squonk said:

We ain't running these tractors 200 MPH at Daytona or flying them to the moon.

 

Speak for yourself.

 

I'm sending one with that NASA mission to the moon.

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Retired Wrencher

Thanks guys for putting me in the right direction. I have  plenty of time to first snow. So that gives me time to hunt down all these parts. I’ll try tractor supply see what they have. Hopefully they have full thread bolts. If not, I’ll have to get them online. I always give local business first try. 

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Racinbob

I've kinda depleted my stash of 7/16"-20 x 1.5" ft bolts as well as lug nuts and I just haven't ordered more I have used just one bolt on a hub. Align it at the top and hang the wheel on it and it pretty much centers itself. It actually might be a bit easier than aligning all five at once. I have a need for some about 2" long but I just don't think they are out there. I'll end up cutting all thread with a nut on the back side. :)

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Retired Wrencher
36 minutes ago, Racinbob said:

I've kinda depleted my stash of 7/16"-20 x 1.5" ft bolts as well as lug nuts and I just haven't ordered more I have used just one bolt on a hub. Align it at the top and hang the wheel on it and it pretty much centers itself. It actually might be a bit easier than aligning all five at once. I have a need for some about 2" long but I just don't think they are out there. I'll end up cutting all thread with a nut on the back side. :)

Humm :eusa-think: that sounds like a good idea Bob. I think I will try that.

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