Brockport Bill 2,014 #51 Posted August 24 12 hours ago, Ed Kennell said: What is this for Bill @Brockport Bill here is an answer to the question about those two elbow type pieces that go with the rear axle bracket for plows (see photos) -- they are indicated in the manual for plows as an "angle spacer" ( part # 7713 ) for "8 speed tractors" -- interesting because i have had a plow on a 312-8 for decades and i never found the need for them -- Curiously, the WH plow manual doesn't say or show how to install or in what alignment -- however, if you go to partstree.com their parts diagram will show the proper alignment for installation use. Here is photo also of an ad on ebay of some rear axle bracket parts which includes those two "spacers" 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
c-series don 10,261 #52 Posted August 25 @Brockport BillOkay, so I’m still not sure where they go? I tried putting them on my C-101 and couldn’t figure out how they went on, got frustrated and installed the axle bracket without them. I’ve installed them on 8-speeds before not even knowing about those little pieces and never had an issue. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan 312-8 203 #53 Posted August 25 In over 30 years of plowing snow, all on 8 speeds, I have never seen, much less installed these on my tractors. Tractors include C-120, 310-8, 416-8, & 312-8. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brockport Bill 2,014 #55 Posted August 25 13 hours ago, c-series don said: @Brockport BillOkay, so I’m still not sure where they go? I tried putting them on my C-101 and couldn’t figure out how they went on, got frustrated and installed the axle bracket without them. I’ve installed them on 8-speeds before not even knowing about those little pieces and never had an issue. agreed it's a weird WH engineering for that axle bracket "spacer" as they call them -- as i noted with my 312-8 i never used them but for those wondering here is the actual WH diagram that shows how they intended the "spacer" as they called it -- tried to download image but not sure it loaded - -but you can see their alignment on the partstree site if you enter part # 104659 - - at top left corner part image # 31 Toro 79350 - Toro 48_ Snow_Dozer Blade (SN_ 210000001 - 210999999) (2001) FRAME ASSEMBLY Parts Lookup with Diagrams _ PartsTree.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Kennell 42,510 #56 Posted August 25 So, it adds the spacer thickness to the top and rear sides of the axle housing. Never seen one till now. The old dog is still learning. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 18,818 #57 Posted August 25 Hydro axle housings are bigger than Gear drives. Basic bracket was made big enough to do the hydro spacer used for gear drives. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan 312-8 203 #58 Posted August 26 On 8/25/2025 at 10:57 AM, Ed Kennell said: So, it adds the spacer thickness to the top and rear sides of the axle housing. Never seen one till now. The old dog is still learning. So apparently it will automatically center the bracket to the axle fore and aft. So, if it they had marketed as an eyestrain saver for us "older" guys who would struggle reading a ruler, scale or tape measure while laying under our tractors, we would all probably be familiar with them... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Awd79 30 #59 Posted August 28 (edited) I will need to get pics this weekend but I wanted to report back on the plow blower dilemma. Well I did what anyone would do in my situation and I bought both. 🤣 Plow guy was awesome we hit it off and he gave me a pile of mule drives and parts, belts, wheel weights etc. He also gave me rear bracket mounts. The plow looks brand new no rust whatsoever even the bolts look perfect be they galvanized or not. I got a nice purdy red metal dump cart too. thanks everyone Edited August 28 by Awd79 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Awd79 30 #60 Posted August 28 There is a Raider 14 in the next town over and the lady wants $100 for it. Has mower deck. It looks good. I’m not sure the situation but it’s been sitting awhile. looks like a fun project and if I get my boys involved now they both will have a tractor. im considering teaching them to wrench on it and if they want to sell it they can take the profit after cost. I bet all the money they choose to keep it after they fix it up but we shall see. Maybe they will have a buyer in Dad. 🤣 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlexR 2,189 #61 Posted August 29 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Awd79 said: There is a Raider 14 in the next town over and the lady wants $100 for it. Has mower deck. It looks good. I’m not sure the situation but it’s been sitting awhile. looks like a fun project and if I get my boys involved now they both will have a tractor. im considering teaching them to wrench on it and if they want to sell it they can take the profit after cost. I bet all the money they choose to keep it after they fix it up but we shall see. Maybe they will have a buyer in Dad. 🤣 Raider 14 would be a 1972 I got one I am redoing right now as well. I also got mine for $100 and it was sitting outside for at least 5 years. I would say go for it! But that said I would caution trying to make money on these tractors. If you aren't counting time put into tractors you can make a little money, with a catch of depending on what all the tractor needs. I am already about $700 into mine and I haven't bought a battery, tires, decals and some other miscellaneous things yet. But I am not trying to make money I am trying to get the tractor to look nice and replace or repair everything that is worn out or broken. Edited August 29 by AlexR 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Awd79 30 #62 Posted August 29 Ok. That’s helpful. Money wasn’t the primary aim and I suspect they will keep it. I don’t count time as this is a rewarding hobby. Once I get her home we will see how she is maybe I get lucky on this one. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
