syslvt90 0 #1 Posted June 19 Hello, I have a c141 wheelhorse. It came with a mower deck but no belts, no serial number, no extra parts. I was hoping someone could help me i.d. so I can get the parts needed and find out if it is compatible with the C-141. Thank you for your time. Stacey Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,451 #2 Posted June 19 Welcome to Red Square That looks like a 42" side discharge deck. Here is a list of all of them that would fit a C-141 I would look at the models sold in 1978-79 to see if they match. Not uncommon to find an new older deck sold with a new tractor. Mower blade hole size and the number/style of rollers and their location on the deck may help in identification. The spindle design changed over the years so an older deck could have been upgraded so disassembly of the spindles would be necessary to determine that. For quick searches go here https://www.partstree.com/search/?msclkid=e5baf37065dc11af43e5a9808bdc6a14 Enter a model number as written in the list to compare models. If you have trouble let us know - we may have parts lists they don't have. The online parts lists may include 42" and 48" but fail to identify which parts fit what deck. Do a search of our files for the correct belts and blades using the mower model number and look for an IPL or TIPL. Mower DNA 42" side discharge 1966-1967 model RL-426 (Have operator manual) replaced by 1968 model 5-1421 (Have operator manual) 1969 model 5-1422 (Have operator manual) 1970 model 5-1423 (Have operator manual) 1971 model 5-1000 (Have operator manual) 1971-1972 model 5-1001 (Have operator manual) 1973-1974 model 5-1010 (Have operator manual) 1975 model 5-1011 (Have operator manual) 1975 model 5-1012 (Have operator manual) 1976 model 65-42MS01 (Have operator manual) - Online Toro parts illustration is the 48" SD deck 1976 model 65-42MS02 (Do not have operator manual) - Online Toro parts illustration is the 48" SD deck 1977 model 75-42MS01 - (Do not have operator manual) These 42" side discharge decks all use blades with 5/8" x 3/4" double-D center hole unless the spindles have been upgraded. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These decks all use blades with a 3/4" center hole. 1977 model 75-42MS02 replaced by (Do not have operator manual) 1978 model 85-42MS01 (Do not have operator manual) 1979 model 95-42MS00 (Do not have operator manual) 1979 model 95-42MS01 (Do not have operator manual) 1980 model 05-42MS01 (Have operator manual) 1981-1983 model 05-42MS02 (Have operator manual) 1984 model 05-42MS03 (Have operator manual) - Last year for bearings with 3/4" ID 1985 model 05-42MS04 (Do not have operator manual) - First year for bearings with 17mm ID unless older spindles were updated. 1986-1988 model 05-42MS05 (Have operator manual) 1989 model 15-42SC01 (Do not have operator manual) 1990 model 15-42SC02 (Have operator manual) 1990-1992 model 15-42SC03 (Have operator manual) 1993-2007 and 2009-2012 model 78345 - These decks all use blades with a 3/4" center hole. (Have operator manuals) Note - 17mm is .669" 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peter lena 9,237 #3 Posted June 19 @syslvt90 do yourself a favor and check out the bottom side of that deck , clean it out , get some sun on it , like this , consider decks to be in the GOLD MINE ZONE , for improvements , especially , FUNCTIONAL DETAILING / LUBRICATION . also note the perfect idler pulley spot for your spindle drive belt , middle of deck gap on belt guard . those decks can operate , with little to no effort , and be quiet too , once done , you become a convert for correction , and solid deck operation . pete 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nylyon-(Admin) 7,880 #4 Posted June 19 Yes, it will work on a C141. The deck looks like it has the ¾” hole for the blades (as opposed to the double D). To my knowledge, there are 2 different spindle types for the ¾” blade hole, a ¾” and metric, or 17mm. I recently replaced the bearings in both types of spindles and what I found is that the 17mm spindle has the pulley attached with a nut and lock washer and no keyway, where the ¾” spindle has a nylon lock nut, no lock washer and a keyway for the pulley. The rest of the parts are likely to be the same, but this will get you closer to the actual model using the list above. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oliver2-44 10,691 #5 Posted June 19 Do you have @syslvt90 Do you have the mule drive that goes on the front of the tractor to route the belt to the deck? The older mule drive pulleys were cast and the newer ones are stamped, spot welded steel. There are 2 spaces between the pulleys, they are slightly different lengths. keep them in their respective spots to keep the belt lined up. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
syslvt90 0 #6 Posted June 20 I've searched through the list, none appear to match. Still stumped. Thank you for everyone's advice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cleat 7,249 #7 Posted June 20 Here is a 42" deck from a 312 that I fixed up last summer. It looks close to yours. Here is it's ID tag. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peter lena 9,237 #8 Posted June 20 @cleat notice the deck spindle belt opportunity for improvement ? looking at belt guard / cover gap in middle of guard , have added a 3" flat idler pulley , also regreased that bearing with lucas 550 deg lucas xhd chassis grease , insuring no noise , or failure . idler is just pushing inward toward front of deck , eliminating long unsupported belt bounce , have that on my 3 decks , decks and related pto drive set up is a gold mine for , functional detailing , basically going after any sloppy connection area , and insuring , quiet / zero noise bearings . my mule drive belt , easily spins deck , by hand , no screaming pto engagement , what is that telling you ? that entire set up starts at the battery tray frame , very sloppy starting point . very similar improvements , gained throughout tractor . most of the decks I see , barely function , but have a commonality of bearing whine , and screaming clutch engagement , what can possibly be done ? easy to eliminate , pete Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lee1977 7,190 #9 Posted June 21 You will need a mule drive and a 1/2" x 103 belt, look like the deck belt is still there. There are two posible spindles assembles. 3/4" keyed will have 3/4" nuts holding the deck pulleys in place. The other will be metric spindles they will have 5/8" lock washers holding the pulleys. There is very little difference in later 42 decks, so exact model number isn't too importian. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
syslvt90 0 #10 Posted June 22 (edited) Yes I have a mule. It didn't come with the pulley spacers, or a belt, but I do have both pulleys. Thank you all for your help! Edited June 22 by syslvt90 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites