Jayoutdoors 98 #1 Posted May 5 (edited) What could have happened and how do I fix? I put in reverse to back off trailer. Suddenly clutch went to "floor" and shifter is stuck in middle of pattern with trans in reverse... Edited May 5 by Jayoutdoors 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 51,909 #2 Posted May 5 (edited) Pull the shifter and look for the neutral H pattern. Use some screw drivers to try and get back into neutral. Somebody will post a pic I can't find it in this mess... Edited May 5 by WHX?? 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jayoutdoors 98 #3 Posted May 5 13 minutes ago, WHX?? said: Pull the shifter and look for the neutral H pattern. Use some screw drivers to try and get back into neutral. Somebody will post a pic I can't find it in this mess... Thank you sounds like a good job for tomorrow! 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daveoman1966 3,841 #4 Posted May 5 Common problem--- The 'dog point screw' at the base of the shift lever (ball) has either broken off or needs adjusting. Pull the dust cover and have a look-C. As WHX sez---wiggle the shift forks around, then adjust the NIPPLE of the dog point screw, using the jam nut to lock it in place after getting it set right. 1 5 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 60,348 #5 Posted May 5 This thread has you covered on the shifter being stuck. Thew clutch going to the floor could be ther clutch return spring (highlighted in drawing) or a linkage that came undone. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peter lena 9,309 #6 Posted May 5 @Jayoutdoors agree with @daveoman1966 on the dog point set screw , another vital point is a trans frain / drive around flush out , like a hi mileage ATF FLUID , have a neighborhood , CUL DE SAC , drive around area ? use every gear / range , let that cut / clean / flush out the gearbox . also like CLIMBING GEAR OIL , check bottle specs , also go after entire clutch linkage , movement points , like a penetrating oil first , make the rust run out , then red aerosol grease tube extension detailing . new shift boot with a wide tie wrap just ABOVE THE BEST HOLDING POINT to shifter rod , grease the under / inside of boot so it slides over the irregularities on top of trans , since doing that , all my shift boots are happy . also always bring a small tool bag , lubricant on any road test , just sayin , pete 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 67,042 #7 Posted May 5 This is generally only an issue with 3 speeds of the early flavor. Let us know if it works for your 8 speed! 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jayoutdoors 98 #8 Posted May 5 18 hours ago, daveoman1966 said: Common problem--- The 'dog point screw' at the base of the shift lever (ball) has either broken off or needs adjusting. Pull the dust cover and have a look-C. As WHX sez---wiggle the shift forks around, then adjust the NIPPLE of the dog point screw, using the jam nut to lock it in place after getting it set right. Thank you! will update as soon as i get a chance to get out there to work onit! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jayoutdoors 98 #9 Posted May 5 11 hours ago, 953 nut said: This thread has you covered on the shifter being stuck. Thew clutch going to the floor could be ther clutch return spring (highlighted in drawing) or a linkage that came undone. thank you 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jayoutdoors 98 #10 Posted May 6 On 5/5/2025 at 4:48 PM, Pullstart said: This is generally only an issue with 3 speeds of the early flavor. Let us know if it works for your 8 speed! it was the issue. but i found a ton of water in trans shall i clean with atf then refill with what oil? also where is best place to get new shift boot? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SylvanLakeWH 28,589 #11 Posted May 7 Raise front end up a foot or so. There's a hump in the trans that prevents all oil from draining. Drain from hex bolt on bottom. Yes flush with diesel and fill with 80/90 gear oil. Replace the rubber cap on the shifter so water isn't a problem... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jayoutdoors 98 #12 Posted May 7 9 minutes ago, SylvanLakeWH said: Raise front end up a foot or so. There's a hump in the trans that prevents all oil from draining. Drain from hex bolt on bottom. Yes flush with diesel and fill with 80/90 gear oil. Replace the rubber cap on the shifter so water isn't a problem... Just got done flushing with a kerosene atf mix. I did tilt to drain. Letting drip drain now. New boot on order. 3 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
