How challenging is it to put predator engine on 414-8

[bloomfieldt 1]

Have a 414 with a blown engine. Wondering about putting a predator 8hp engine on it for snow plowing only. Any thoughts?

 

[ebinmaine 71,800]

 I can't honestly say I'm a huge fan of those HF imported engines. Have you looked into finding a good used Kohler in your area? Anything from a 10 to 16 would fit.

[SylvanLakeWH 28,078]

I have put two 212 cc predators on C-85 / 105 frames... easy. Just need to clearly note front pulley location and make mounting spacers so engine pulley / belt lines up... I used for cruising, trailer and plowing snow... no issues.

 

 

[Handy Don 13,679]

25 minutes ago, bloomfieldt said:

Have a 414 with a blown engine. Wondering about putting a predator 8hp engine on it for snow plowing only. Any thoughts?

 

Light to moderate snow on mostly level paved surfaces and I think 8hp would be ok. Predators are pretty light so not a lot of momentum in the flywheel. Heavy snow or hills or rough surfaces might be more challenging.

I like @ebinmaine’s idea of a Kohler transplant -- even an 9hp Kohler would give you a pretty strong setup.

 

[squonk 43,328]

I have a 8HP Kohler on the shelf and probably by your name aren't far from you. 

 

 

[Handy Don 13,679]

27 minutes ago, squonk said:

8HP Kohler on the shelf

What is the stator output on that setup? You’d need the “heat sink” style voltage regulator, right?

[squonk 43,328]

36 minutes ago, Handy Don said:

What is the stator output on that setup? You’d need the “heat sink” style voltage regulator, right?

I tested the stator but don't remember the exact voltage but I know it was good. I do not have a charging system on the stand. Yes this engine was on a tractor with the heat sink style regulator

Edited July 15, 2024 by squonk

[Handy Don 13,679]

2 hours ago, squonk said:

I tested the stator but don't remember the exact voltage but I know it was good. I do not have a charging system on the stand. Yes this engine was on a tractor with the heat sink style regulator

I was just curious. The S/G on my K181 is 15 amps (and I have NO electrical accessories at all 😁) but I know that some stators have fewer coils than others so are in the 3-5 amp range.

Thanks

 

Edited July 15, 2024 by Handy Don

[squonk 43,328]

47 minutes ago, Handy Don said:

I was just curious. The S/G on my K181 is 15 amps (and I have NO electrical accessories at all 😁) but I know that some stators have fewer coils than others so are in the 3-5 amp range.

Thanks

 

The starter may have a charging amp sticker on it. Next time out I'll look. 

[Goldnboy 1,027]

You will need to change the drive pulley since the predator has a 1" shaft.

[SylvanLakeWH 28,078]

51 minutes ago, Goldnboy said:

You will need to change the drive pulley since the predator has a 1" shaft.

[8ntruck 7,630]

or find an adaptor sleeve to go from 1" to 1 1/8".