David414 289 #1 Posted October 24, 2023 Looking at a wheel horse roto tiller model #712116, S/N# 809092 . Will this fit a 1989, 414-8? The RS manual section states that this is a 1971 model? Not sure what parts or attachments are needed to fit the 414-8. Are there any parts off the PTO to make the belt go underneath the tractor to the tiller? Anyone have pictures of this particular model attached to a classic 300/400 tractor? I am concerned that not all the parts, pulleys, idlers, brackets etc are complete with this unit. Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gwest_ca-(File Mod) 10,539 #2 Posted October 24, 2023 here is what fit the 414-8 Here is the 7-1211 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gwest_ca-(File Mod) 10,539 #3 Posted October 24, 2023 Tiller DNA in the order they were produced 1966 tiller model RT-366 [Driven by hydro transmission pulley. Drive belt 1586 replaced by 9714 (HA x 76" or 1/2" x 76")] 1967 tiller model RT-367 Uses tiller hitch 7340 Rear axle hitch mounts behind rear axle 7353 idler arm mounts to rear of tractor frame [Front drive belt 1586 replaced by 9714 (HA x 76" or 1/2" x 76") Rear drive belt 7358 (4L x 65.95" or 1/2" x 65.95")] 1968-1973 tiller model 7-1211 Uses tiller hitch 7340 Rear axle hitch mounts behind rear axle 7697 idler arm mounts to rear of tractor frame [Front drive belt for short frame models 867, 875, 876, 87 and 1075 #1576 replaced by 9691 (HA x 70" or 1/2" x 70") Front drive belt for long frame models #1586 replaced by 9714 (HA x 76" or 1/2" x 76") Rear drive belt for all #7358 (4L x 65.95" or 1/2" x 65.95")] 1973-1974 tiller model 7-1251 Uses tiller hitch 103629 Rear axle hitch mounts under rear axle 103632 idler arm pivots in hitch No rear shield [Drive belt # 1599 (HA x 139.00in 1/2" x 139") If used on later twin-cylinder models use belt # 103635 which has been replaced by # 110265 (1/2" x 141.00")] 1975 tiller model 7-1252 Uses tiller hitch 104757 Rear axle hitch mounts under rear axle 104660 idler arm bolted to hitch - following models welded 104437 rear shield mounted on 104438 rear piano hinge [Drive belt # 1599 (HA x 139.00in 1/2" x 139") If used on later twin-cylinder models use belt # 103635 which has been replaced by # 110265 (1/2" x 141.00")] 1976 tiller model 67-36TL01 Uses tiller hitch 105543 Rear axle hitch mounts under rear axle 104437 rear shield mounted on 104438 rear piano hinge [Drive belt # 1599 (HA x 139.00in 1/2" x 139") If used on later twin-cylinder models use belt # 103635 which has been replaced by # 110265 (1/2" x 141.00")] 1977 tiller model 77-36TL01 Uses tiller hitch 105543 Rear axle hitch mounts under rear axle 104437 rear shield mounted on 104438 rear piano hinge [Drive belt # 1599 (HA x 139.00in 1/2" x 139") If used on later twin-cylinder models use belt # 103635 which has been replaced by # 110265 (1/2" x 141.00")] 1977 tiller model 77-36TL02 Uses tiller hitch 105543 Rear axle hitch mounts under rear axle 106092 rear shield mounted by three straps [Drive belt # 1599 (HA x 139.00in 1/2" x 139") If used on later twin-cylinder models use belt # 103635 which has been replaced by # 110265 (1/2" x 141.00")] 1978 tiller model 87-36TL01 Uses tiller hitch 105543 Rear axle hitch mounts under rear axle 106092 rear shield mounted by three straps No belt guard on front idler assembly [Drive belt # 1599 (HA x 139.00in 1/2" x 139") If used on later twin-cylinder models use belt # 103635 which has been replaced by # 110265 (1/2" x 141.00")] 1979 tiller model 97-36TL01 Uses tiller hitch 105543 Rear axle hitch mounts under rear axle 106092 rear shield mounted by three straps [Drive belt # 1599 (HA x 139.00in 1/2" x 139") If used on later twin-cylinder models use belt # 103635 which has been replaced by # 110265 (1/2" x 141.00")] 1980-1982 tiller model 07-36TL01 Uses tiller hitch 105543 Rear axle hitch mounts under rear axle 106092 rear shield mounted by three straps Belt guard on front idler assembly retained by pulley shaft nut [Drive belt # 1599 (HA x 139.00in 1/2" x 139") If used on later twin-cylinder models use belt # 103635 which has been replaced by # 110265 (1/2" x 141.00")] 1983-1985 tiller model 07-36TL02 Uses tiller hitch 105543 Rear axle hitch mounts under rear axle First belt guard on front idler assembly to be retained by bolts to a welded-on bracket [Drive belt # 1599 (HA x 139.00in 1/2" x 139") If used on later twin-cylinder models use belt # 103635 which has been replaced by # 110265 (1/2" x 141.00")] 1986-1989 tiller model 07-36TL03 Uses tiller hitch 105543 Rear axle hitch mounts under rear axle [Drive belt # 1599 (HA x 139.00in 1/2" x 139") If used on later twin-cylinder models use belt # 103635 which has been replaced by # 110265 (1/2" x 141.00")] 1990-1991 tiller model 07-36TL04 Uses tiller hitch 105543 Rear axle hitch mounts under rear axle [Drive belt # 103635 which has been replaced by # 110265 (1/2" x 141.00")] 1992 tiller model 07-36TL05 Uses tiller hitch 105543 Rear axle hitch mounts under rear axle [Drive belt # 103635 which has been replaced by # 110265 (1/2" x 141.00")] 1993-2001 2003-2007 tiller model 79370 Rear axle hitch mounts under rear axle [Drive belt # 103635 which has been replaced by # 110265 (1/2" x 141.00")] 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daveoman1966 3,632 #4 Posted October 24, 2023 The tiller model 7-1211 is for tractors of 1972 and earlier. The later years have a different hitch and idler pulley. Here is a pic 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
David414 289 #5 Posted October 24, 2023 Thank you both for the quick reply. Seller claims that the 7-1211 came off a 314-8 tractor. The pictures listed under FB MKT Place shows the mule drive, belts, and the front guard and idlers for underneath the PTO. How did he connect this to a 314-8? Person selling has no info other than the pictures as the tractor was sold minus the roto tiller. I can see the different rear hitch and idler pulley from the pictures daveoman 1966 sent. Is it even possible to attach this older model to a 414-8 as they claim? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daveoman1966 3,632 #6 Posted October 25, 2023 (edited) I found the Tiller you're looking at. The ONLY things in see in the pics that would mate to a 314-8 traftor are on pics # 5 and #6. The TOP red thing is the MULE DRIVE for a mower deck. The BOTTOM red thingy is the Mid-Mount IDLER PULLEY assy used for a 36" tiller, but not for the tiller that is shown (although it may work). That Idler Pulley assy would be for a tiller model 07-36TL01 thru 07-36TL05). I've no idea what the angle iron assy contraption is. IMHO...the seller must have a different style of hitch on the back of his 314-8 tractor to even attach the tiller.... I also see a SLOT HITCH.... which MAY be part of the connection apparatus. Edited October 25, 2023 by daveoman1966 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
David414 289 #7 Posted October 25, 2023 14 hours ago, daveoman1966 said: I found the Tiller you're looking at. The ONLY things in see in the pics that would mate to a 314-8 traftor are on pics # 5 and #6. The TOP red thing is the MULE DRIVE for a mower deck. The BOTTOM red thingy is the Mid-Mount IDLER PULLEY assy used for a 36" tiller, but not for the tiller that is shown (although it may work). That Idler Pulley assy would be for a tiller model 07-36TL01 thru 07-36TL05). I've no idea what the angle iron assy contraption is. IMHO...the seller must have a different style of hitch on the back of his 314-8 tractor to even attach the tiller.... I also see a SLOT HITCH.... which MAY be part of the connection apparatus. 14 hours ago, daveoman1966 said: I found the Tiller you're looking at. The ONLY things in see in the pics that would mate to a 314-8 traftor are on pics # 5 and #6. The TOP red thing is the MULE DRIVE for a mower deck. The BOTTOM red thingy is the Mid-Mount IDLER PULLEY assy used for a 36" tiller, but not for the tiller that is shown (although it may work). That Idler Pulley assy would be for a tiller model 07-36TL01 thru 07-36TL05). I've no idea what the angle iron assy contraption is. IMHO...the seller must have a different style of hitch on the back of his 314-8 tractor to even attach the tiller.... I also see a SLOT HITCH.... which MAY be part of the connection apparatus. daveoman 1966 Thank you for checking the FB MKT Place listing. I don't understand how the PO connected this tiller either. Based on the mixture of parts, equipment years, and an unknown outcome, I will pass on this rototiller. Again, thank you very much for your help! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
