I Told You I Rarely Use My Brain (More Pics)

[Moparfanforever 874]

I didn't really need this, but who can pass up a loader tractor ??

 

It is a C161 with a twin cylinder Briggs. Seems to run good and hydro works well. It has a 20 foot paint job, yeah  it's bad, but maybe I can live with it. Or maybe put the loader on my 520 ??

 

It has a new pump on the loader, but the loader goes up pretty slow. The person I bought it from said it is a 2.5 gpm pump and he thought it was to small ?? Going to need help on that. 

 

Oh wo is me. 

 

 

[wallfish 17,578]

1 hour ago, Moparfanforever said:

it is a 2.5 gpm pump and he thought it was to small ?? Going to need help on that. 

NICE find !!!!

Flow rate can typically be increased with speed. A pulley size change to speed it up. Depending on the pump and the set up on there now, it could be just that simple.

Find the name and model of the pump and search the innerweb for the specs. Look for the output rates at different rpms. Determine if you can raise the rpm on the pump to stay within specs of the pump.

[Moparfanforever 874]

@wallfish, thanks for the info. I will check it out once I get it unloaded. I have to find some room for it. 

 

We did have it at full throttle and it was slow. I am old and slow also, so maybe I could live with it. 

[c-series don 9,471]

I believe that is a Johnson Work Horse loader? I have the same tractor C-161 Automatic it has countless hours on it and although I rarely use it anymore it’s still runs great when I need it. 

[wallfish 17,578]

49 minutes ago, Moparfanforever said:

@wallfish, thanks for the info. I will check it out once I get it unloaded. I have to find some room for it. 

 

We did have it at full throttle and it was slow. I am old and slow also, so maybe I could live with it. 

Slow is better than too fast but once you get used to using it is when it can get frustrating being slow.

Too fast can make fine adjustments more difficult.

[lynnmor 7,615]

Check for belt slippage, when mine gets slow that is the problem.

[Moparfanforever 874]

1 hour ago, c-series don said:

I believe that is a Johnson Work Horse loader? I have the same tractor C-161 Automatic it has countless hours on it and although I rarely use it anymore it’s still runs great when I need it. 

Not sure about the Johnson ,the owner said it was an Ark??

I just noticed it has the shaker plate and the rubber is toast, may have to order the Kerber mounts.

I have to look everything over once I unload it. If it looks like to bad, I may "unload " it !!!

[c-series don 9,471]

It could be an Ark ? Others that are better versed in loaders will know for sure!! 

[953 nut 58,241]

6 minutes ago, Moparfanforever said:

Not sure about the Johnson ,the owner said it was an Ark??

It looks identical to my Johnson Workhorse loader, not that I am into comparing Big Johnsons!                

[Moparfanforever 874]

@953 nut I will get more pics tomorrow if I have the energy to unload it, you nasty boy !!

[Ed Kennell 40,685]

23 minutes ago, Moparfanforever said:

@953 nut , you nasty boy !!

 

Me thinks Dickie is feeling much better.   

[Pullstart 64,849]

I think the forward support being 90 degrees to the upright is a sign that it’s a Johnson.  I’ve never seen @953 nut‘s in person… but I imagine his might be bigger being on the GT14?  We could always ask @SylvanLakeWH what he thinks about the matter…

Edited October 1, 2023 by Pullstart

[ebinmaine 71,000]

15 hours ago, Moparfanforever said:

didn't really need this, but

IT'S A LOADER TRACTOR !!! 

Niiiice find! 

[SylvanLakeWH 27,684]

22 minutes ago, Pullstart said:

We could always ask @SylvanLakeWH what he thinks about the matter…

 

[rjg854 11,933]

12 hours ago, Ed Kennell said:

 

Me thinks Dickie is feeling much better.   

Nothing wrong with his sense of humor  

[Moparfanforever 874]

More pics. I didn't see any ID tags or remnants of any decals. At least the hoses are brand new. I don't quite understand why tab is there, looks like the tab for a blade. 

[Moparfanforever 874]

I looked thru the manual section and found Ark and Qwik Way Loaders and the loader i have does not look like either one of those. couldn't find a Johnson manual.

[Thor27 832]

That looks like an ark 500 on a home made sub frame to me.

 

Is the sub frame made from a snow plow frame?

Edited October 1, 2023 by Thor27

[Moparfanforever 874]

7 minutes ago, Thor27 said:

That looks like an ark 500 on a home made sub frame to me.

 

Is the sub frame made from a snow plow frame?

That very well may be the case , since it has the tab from what looks like a snow plow frame.

And i was also wondering about the tabs on the mid mount,made for carriage bolts

Edited October 1, 2023 by Moparfanforever

[Handy Don 13,427]

57 minutes ago, Moparfanforever said:

I don't quite understand why tab is there, looks like the tab for a blade.

I’ll venture a guess that the subframe is a converted front dozer blade frame and whoever did it just didn’t bother to remove the lift tab!

[953 nut 58,241]

1 minute ago, Moparfanforever said:

it has the tab from what looks like a snow plow frame

That is what it appears to be, once you have used the loader a bit you may decide that a more robust sub-frame is needed.

[Moparfanforever 874]

31 minutes ago, 953 nut said:

That is what it appears to be, once you have used the loader a bit you may decide that a more robust sub-frame is needed.

@953 nut I guess a person could reinforce and box the frame to help strengthen it. 

 

I will figure it out once I get it unloaded and pressure wash it. 

 

I have a 314H that has a broken/cracked frame that I need to do a frame swap on, there wouldn't be any reason why it wouldn't work on it would there??

[Handy Don 13,427]

29 minutes ago, Moparfanforever said:

I have a 314H that has a broken/cracked frame that I need to do a frame swap on, there wouldn't be any reason why it wouldn't work on it would there??

No particular reason it wouldn’t go onto a 314-H.

I actually have a 500 frame here in NY that is looking for new home. 

[Moparfanforever 874]

16 minutes ago, Handy Don said:

No particular reason it wouldn’t go onto a 314-H.

I actually have a 500 frame here in NY that is looking for new home. 

Thanks, I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work either. I have two bare frames already. I can reinforce the frames and maybe make it a dedicated loader tractor. The 314H does have the hydro handle in the middle of the tunnel cover, not sure that I am fond of that. I wouldn't think a handle would be hard to swap over, but I don't think I have a handle. We will see!!

[Ed Kennell 40,685]

2 hours ago, Thor27 said:

Is the sub frame made from a snow plow frame?

Sure is.  I like the way he fixed the front to the mid attach-o-matic and the rear to the axle.    He moved the frame to the rear so he could also use it for his weight mount.  

Great repurpose of a plow frame.