Matt0000 1 #1 Posted July 4, 2023 The starter has power when the key switch is on the run position, changed out relays and didn’t change anything. What could be wrong? Only thing that works is to unconnect the blue wire on starter once it starts but is inconvenient. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gwest_ca-(File Mod) 10,503 #2 Posted July 4, 2023 What year or model and serial? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handy Don 10,634 #3 Posted July 4, 2023 Welcome. Lots of possibilities, but impossible to narrow down without telling us what’s been done to the tractor. Pictures would help. Short circuit, bad switch, wrong switch, wiring mistake, wiring damage, and more... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt0000 1 #4 Posted July 4, 2023 1990-1991 i believe 3 minutes ago, gwest_ca said: What year or model and serial? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt0000 1 #5 Posted July 4, 2023 Just now, Handy Don said: Welcome. Lots of possibilities, but impossible to narrow down without telling us what’s been done to the tractor. Pictures would help. Short circuit, bad switch, wrong switch, wiring mistake, wiring damage, and more... I replaced the switch and relays but not much else. Haven’t changed any wiring. The one relay switch wire tends to come out and the key won’t do anything. But not sure if I switch wires around on the one relay that has the blue wire. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gwest_ca-(File Mod) 10,503 #6 Posted July 5, 2023 Download the file that applies to your tractor. 1990 and 1991 are different. There is a starter diagram in each file. First thing I would check is how the ignition switch is functioning. It may have an internal problem. There is a chart with the full wiring diagram that shows how the switch should function. Make sure you have the correct ignition switch. They can look alike but function differently. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt0000 1 #7 Posted July 5, 2023 32 minutes ago, gwest_ca said: Download the file that applies to your tractor. 1990 and 1991 are different. There is a starter diagram in each file. First thing I would check is how the ignition switch is functioning. It may have an internal problem. There is a chart with the full wiring diagram that shows how the switch should function. Make sure you have the correct ignition switch. They can look alike but function differently. Not sure if it’s 90 or 91 this is the model number, the old switch did the same thing it does now and didn’t change anything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gwest_ca-(File Mod) 10,503 #8 Posted July 5, 2023 Your tractor is a 1992 model so use the 1991 wiring above 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davem1111 1,932 #9 Posted July 5, 2023 I'm having the same issue with the 1990 520-8 I picked up recently. I think I'm going to have to completely rewire this thing - wire nuts all over the place, seat switch is gone and all 3 wires nutted together. The cover is off the old relay, and I can start the tractor with the key on, if I squeeze the relay in the right place to close the contacts, but the key switch won't start it. It will be "interesting" to find out where the problem is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt0000 1 #10 Posted July 5, 2023 11 hours ago, davem1111 said: I'm having the same issue with the 1990 520-8 I picked up recently. I think I'm going to have to completely rewire this thing - wire nuts all over the place, seat switch is gone and all 3 wires nutted together. The cover is off the old relay, and I can start the tractor with the key on, if I squeeze the relay in the right place to close the contacts, but the key switch won't start it. It will be "interesting" to find out where the problem is. So you have power to the starter all the time with the key switch or no? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davem1111 1,932 #11 Posted July 5, 2023 7 minutes ago, Matt0000 said: So you have power to the starter all the time with the key switch or no? Hmmm... I think so. Since the relay is exposed, if I bump it the starter will crank whether the key is on or not if I remember correctly. The engine will only start with the key on though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lynnmor 6,796 #12 Posted July 5, 2023 17 hours ago, Matt0000 said: I replaced the switch and relays but not much else. Hard to follow this thread, but my guess is wrong switch, you can't use the appearance since there are numerous types that look the same. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt0000 1 #13 Posted July 5, 2023 2 hours ago, lynnmor said: Hard to follow this thread, but my guess is wrong switch, you can't use the appearance since there are numerous types that look the same. Not sure if the old switch is factory or not but the new switch does the same thing? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt0000 1 #14 Posted July 5, 2023 2 hours ago, lynnmor said: Hard to follow this thread, but my guess is wrong switch, you can't use the appearance since there are numerous types that look the same. switch isn’t the problem tried factory switch from another 520 and does same thing 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites