520-8 Customizations

[TJ5208 1,823]

So I decided to stick a set of 25 inch ATV tires underneath my tractor so I had to lift the fender pan. And the tires are being a pain to try to take off the rims. I still have the other side to get off but here's my progress so far. @857lover has been watching this I already told him I'm probably going to take the ATV tires to a shop and get them took off because I don't feel like destroying them.

[Panther416-8 341]

Doesn't that lift make the trans oil check and fuel refill difficult at best?

[kpinnc 10,981]

You can add blocks underneath the tank to raise the filler neck. Probably up to about 3/4 inch. 

[TJ5208 1,823]

1 hour ago, Panther416-8 said:

Doesn't that lift make the trans oil check and fuel refill difficult at best?

No not at all.

[Pullstart 60,125]

Did that tire rip like that, or was it cut off the wheel?

[TJ5208 1,823]

1 minute ago, Pullstart said:

Did that tire rip like that, or was it cut off the wheel?

I had to cut it the bead is stuck.

[Pullstart 60,125]

5 minutes ago, TJ Salyers said:

I had to cut it the bead is stuck.

Not fun.  Best get after it with a chisel and hammer now

[TJ5208 1,823]

7 minutes ago, Pullstart said:

Not fun.  Best get after it with a chisel and hammer now

Im hoping i dont destroy the atv tires.

[Achto 26,668]

Slide hammer bead breaker will get those tires broke off the rim. This is what I use on farm tractor tires & other tires that won't cooperate.

 

https://www.amazon.com/Esco-70150-Slide-Hammer-Breaker/dp/B01DY9HBFK/ref=asc_df_B01DY9HBFK/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312070574797&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=479455778645694490&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1028137&hvtargid=pla-627895104447&psc=1

Edited November 10, 2022 by Achto

[Pullstart 60,125]

And I recently figured out a little air pressure in the tire helps to pop the bead where you want to also…

 

 

[Panther416-8 341]

5 hours ago, kpinnc said:

You can add blocks underneath the tank to raise the filler neck. Probably up to about 3/4 inch. 

Guess that would work. My transmission dipstick is already close to being flush with the seat pan. Not sure how that could be adjusted other than to fashion a new dipstick tube to thread into the trans and lengthen the dipstick itself.

[Snoopy11 5,713]

1 minute ago, TJ Salyers said:

I was trying to save the tires this time the ones on the 800 were shot.

By.... cutting them off...

 

I just question why you didn't just take it to a tire shop? They will remove them and put the new ones on for you...

 

Don

[Jeff-C175 7,195]

5 hours ago, TJ Salyers said:

I was trying to save the tires this time

 

5 hours ago, Snoopy11 said:

By.... cutting them off...

 

 

 

[Snoopy11 5,713]

29 minutes ago, Jeff-C175 said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh, come now Jeff, it couldn't be THAT hard to save them... right?

 

Otta my way... this keg of tire sealant is heavy...

 

 

 

Don

Edited November 11, 2022 by Snoopy11

[TJ5208 1,823]

8 hours ago, Snoopy11 said:

By.... cutting them off...

 

I just question why you didn't just take it to a tire shop? They will remove them and put the new ones on for you...

 

Don

I was trying to break the bead. Then i accidentally put the ply bar through the tire.

[Jeff-C175 7,195]

19 minutes ago, TJ Salyers said:

I was trying to break the bead. Then i accidentally put the ply bar through the tire.

 

That tells me the tires were dry rotted and junk anyway.

 

Unless you had that pry bar sharpened up to play mumblety peg with.

 

 

[Lee1977 6,299]

14 hours ago, kpinnc said:

You can add blocks underneath the tank to raise the filler neck. Probably up to about 3/4 inch. 

I went under the fender and gas tank bracket on my 312-8. The lift tube will be a problem on the hydro if you go under the bracket.

[Snoopy11 5,713]

I would like to see the pry bar, because if you mean something other than tire SPOONS... then you are using the wrong tool to begin with. Screwdrivers and pry bars have their own uses, WAY away from tires...

 

Don

Edited November 11, 2022 by Snoopy11

[Pullstart 60,125]

Ok.  Tires were junk.  Can we drop that and move on to the tractor?  TJ, a pry bar is a valiant effort at removing the tire from the rim and I can see how it would tear an old tire.  Can’t save ‘em all.  Is there a reason you can’t use the wheels that the ATV tires are on?

[TJ5208 1,823]

42 minutes ago, Pullstart said:

Ok.  Tires were junk.  Can we drop that and move on to the tractor?  TJ, a pry bar is a valiant effort at removing the tire from the rim and I can see how it would tear an old tire.  Can’t save ‘em all.  Is there a reason you can’t use the wheels that the ATV tires are on?

The lugs don't line up.

[Pullstart 60,125]

3 minutes ago, TJ Salyers said:

The lugs don't line up.

 

I wondered, but didn’t see that in any pictures.

[TJ5208 1,823]

2 minutes ago, Pullstart said:

 

I wondered, but didn’t see that in any pictures.

I already gutted the plan I'm just gonna buy some ag tires and skip the hassel.

Edited November 11, 2022 by TJ Salyers

[Snoopy11 5,713]

2 hours ago, Pullstart said:

Ok.  Tires were junk.  Can we drop that and move on

 

How do you know the tires were junk? What evidence do you have of that? Seems to me that it was merely preference that these tires get changed... nothing wrong with that, but I have seen tires in MUCH worse shape still rolling around.

1. Previous to them being amputated from the rim, I don't see any evidence that those tires were 'junk' ...or that they would not hold air.
2. I see 12 inch tubes in the pictures, so it appears to me that the tires might have had tubes in them to begin with.
3. Even if they didn't hold air for whatever reason, those tires look to be in good enough shape to tube (or re-tube) them... and it certainly would have been cheaper in TJ's position to use new tubes.
4. I could easily tear a hole in even a brand new tire with the wrong tools.

We don't know if the tires were bad or not... we can only look at pictures. If it was just preference that these tires get changed, then so be it. Just don't make excuses for using the wrong tools and cutting tires off rims to change them... that is a desperation move that shouldn't be recommended or repeated... 

 

Don

[Pullstart 60,125]

I’m not going to argue, it doesn’t really matter why he’s changing them.  It might just be a good time to ignore his actions if you don’t approve of them, or give constructive criticism.  Sorry, I just think this topic got pushed too far out of hand for no reason.  I’m done now. 

[Snoopy11 5,713]

Hey, Kev-dog I'm not trying to argue either... I just hate to see TJ get into a position where... now he is forced to buy tires or whatever the case. He is on a tight budget and tires aren't cheap anymore, neither is getting tires put on at a tire shop!!!

 

I'm not trying to make fun, or whatever the case... maybe I am not coming across correctly. Unfortunately, it's too to give any advice/constructive criticism now...

 

Don