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This will be the banner for this years group picture. Look for it when you enter the grounds at @squonk’s tent. There will be another banner there as well which I would like everyone to sign even if you are not planning on being in the picture. The signed banner will be given to @Sparky as a token of appreciation for all he has done throughout the years here on RedSquare, and for having put up with me for 20 years! Thank you Squonk for your help with the banner.

June 17, 1885, the dismantled Statue of Liberty, a gift of friendship from the people of France to the people of America, arrives in New York Harbor after being shipped across the Atlantic Ocean in 350 individual pieces packed in more than 200 cases. The copper and iron statue, which was reassembled and dedicated the following year in a ceremony presided over by U.S. President Grover Cleveland, became known around the world as an enduring symbol of freedom and democracy.

Unfortunately this photo and may other got Photo Bucketed.

If I’m not mistaken there is a way in Adobe Photoshop to remove the Photo bucket overlay, I think I saw it in YouTube or Facebook. You could go over it by hand with the clone tool and remove it but I’d bet there is an automated process. I started out as a lurker looking for info on a starter in 2022 when I got my 312. I started putting my 0.2 in and enjoyed the atmosphere and camaraderie so I officially joined in 2024 with @ebinmaine’s assistance. I went to @JCM’s meet and greet later that year and two years later I’m still here with 3 more tractors. This site has come in handy on multiple occasions that are almost too many to count.

I'll never work on another Onan that was left in the weather, too many fasteners rusted fast. Folks that abuse tractors like that one do not deserve more than a token amount for their careless style.

Those four words are a warning that something ain't right now but you won't know until you get it home. If you need a tiller and a deck they have value. If you plan on reselling them they are a bit less valuable because time will tell how good a deal it was. The fact that it is setting in an open field and they didn't even clean it up makes me think a realistic seller will take whatever they can get for it. Unless you have an overwhelming desire to have this 520 I would start at $ 200.00 and walk away at $ 400.00. Just too many unknowns and the seller is obviously not motivated enough to seek a higher price by having it "run great when sold."

I have a Raider 10 for sale $200. New rubber on the front, fizz can paint job. It does have one known issue, the transmission does not shift out of high range.

I took all of your advice into consideration, and I've been taking to @ebinmaine. I've decided to pass on it as some of the points brought up, like the engine and electronics possibly being a money pit would probably end of being more of a project than I have time and money for. I've got other half done projects that could use the attention more. Thanks to @ebinmaine@Sparky@TonyToro Jr.@ri702bill@Ed Kennell@953 nut@pfrederi@lynnmor@oliver2-44@JERSEYHAWG / Glenn@Chaz54and @kpinnc. The advice was much appreciated.

The first show where RedSquare was officially represented was 2008. That year, I believe that the only thing of significance was a banner made by Terry and signed by everyone in attendance, that banner was given to me and is proudly on display at @stevebo’s barn. Pre 2011, we strongly encouraged the use of Photobucket which was a great at the time when we lost the forum, but now any surviving photobucket picture is watermarked so I believe that this picture is the first RedSquare group picture.

Well I said that I had plans to enjoy the mowing break, but the back pasture is still green and kicking. So I ran over it today (cooler temps this week) and then let the 314-8 have a proud moment. Still my number one "go to" machine. My first and hardest worker.

I stumbled upon Red Square when there was just under 30 members. Unfortunately I became a lurker for many years not knowing what I was really missing. Shame on me. Looking forward to our 8 th Meet & Greet this September in Maine. Thank you for this post Richard

@MainelyWheelhorse If ya ever see something that’s for sale close to me in Central Ct don’t be afraid to ask me to check out it…I can always haul it up to Jim’s meet/greet.

Looks like my 1st show was 2010...

Yep, '88 or '89 model. I never believe the "it ran fine when I parked it outside and never moved it for five years". The Onan could be a simple fix or a money pit. I consider it a $150 roller and if the tiller and the 48"deck turn free add $300. I would start at $400.

legally…

This is a GREAT time. I highly recommend anyone considering Jim and Patti's get together to come on up!

Problem solved. I replaced the belt with a NOS 9691 (1/2 X 70). I trimmed the guide and reshaped it so there is about a 1/16" gap when the belt is engaged. When the belt is disengaged, the guide is still low enough to keep the belt from coming out of the idler. And back to the original issue, there is no belt slapping or any other noise emanating from the belt cover area.

You know, this is a really persuasive argument for moving to buckets, rather than tractors for the big show.....

https://www.google.com/search?q=30+sec+cleaner&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS866US866&oq=30+sec+cleaner+&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTILCAEQABgKGAsYgAQyCwg recently used this on family stone , amazingly effective , simple easy to use , after a 15 min waiting time , used a warm water filled , hand sprayer , with adjustable pin point nozzle , for lettering , spray out . had a good supply of warm water in soda bottles , for flushing , small lighter scrubbing brushes , no effort was required , the shedding was quick , easy . the debris also dissolves to / into the the ground . if you can get a smaller qt bottle , thats plenty . had a few people stop and ask , initial spray , was a soaker , let sit 15 / 30 min , warm water spray and brush / repeat . give it a high 5 rating , very simple , easy . bring plenty of warm water for flush down . pete

I couldn’t agree more! The sound of a start gen Kohler 8 turning over right before it fires is sweet!

Saturday, Sunday, Tuesday, whatever.

The big show just over a week away . What do you have in your collection for trade 👀 Wheel Horse RJ-25 cable steer proto Type (fiberglass hood ). This machine was complete built by vinsrj on YouTube . This is absolutely one of the best built rjs out there. Any questions feel free to call/text (860) 681-3610

What's wrong with the engine you have? A K181 is going to be far superior to anything you buy at HF.

We plan to do a Red Square 20th Anniversary group photo on Friday, June 26 and Saturday, June 27. The location will depend on the weather, if it is a nice day we will gather near the entrance to the show field (AKA Squonk's Corner) and in the event of rain we will move into the display building. Times are yet to be determined but there will be plenty of advance notice and announcements on the public address system. Plan to be a part of the celebration.

Merged!

I started this thread to post pics of your pre trip rigs and pics on your way to the big show!! Hard to post pics in trailer as this is a toy hauler. Here is my ride for the show and my home while there. safe travels to all…

We started a thread like this Kev!

As has already been said a nonrunning 88 520 is nothing special.. Onans can be a problem even well cared for. 1100 Eaton untested and not stored in side That deck buired in crap may not be worth much. 100 for the parts tractor and 200 for the tiller.

Same here, especially if I'm unsure about the routing of something. I check @cleat's posts.

Single cylinder engines that aren't the 459cc have ball bearings. I just looked at the parts list for the 670 and saw no ball bearings listed on the parts list. There is a thrust washer that MAY be able to handle the axial load of a Wheel Horse PTO, but I'd rather just upgrade the 3-amp charging system of the 670 and use an electric clutch.

@Rob R and I will be there Saturday!

Looks like not the only "Ran when parked" tractor he has rusting away (John Deere in the back ground) To me you are buying a tiller (with out all the pulleys) and a parts tractor.... The deck buried in wet leaves probably not in good shape

Doesnt have the swept axle or the gear reduction steering. The wide/deep rear wheels appear to be missing. Looks like a 48” deck. Being unable to test or hear the Onan engine, hydro trans, deck or tiller it’s all one big gamble. If ya feel you still want it I would shoot lower..like $400 (have your trailer hooked to the truck and cash in hand) and let the seller bring the price up to the 500 number. Good luck!

Good advice from Adams. besides those new engines don't have the cool sound of a starter generator cranking.

How many hours on the tractor?? Buying a Hydro without being able to try it out?? Be cautious... hope it is not just a lawn ornament.

Driving Miss Daisey. My wife had an appointment with a doctor in the big city, she doesn't like driving on interstates and in city traffic so I always drive her. Her report from the doctor was good so we celebrated with lunch at Cheddars. Good old comfort food makes the trip worthwhile.

You don't strike me as the type who is super mechanically inclined. That's OK, not everyone is, but I believe that most people can learn to be. My advice would be to slow down a bit and take the time to learn. Time to learn to how things work, and time to learn to work on what you have before just throwing parts at it. You jump all over the place like an ADHD squirrel. Engine swaps are usually more trouble and work than just diagnosing the issue with the existing system. You say it cranks, and has spark, but no combustion. That is a sign of no fuel, have you tried to bottle feed it and see if it runs? Get a small medicine syringe, draw it full of gas, 5ml usually does the trick, and shoot it right into the throat of the carb while the engine is cranking. If fuel delivery is the issue it will start, but won't stay running. How is the spark? Is it snappy and blue, or is it orange and weak? If the condenser is bad disconnecting it will make it run, but is not a good long-term solution.

Young whippersnapper!

I couldn't drive in 1999.

The BBT aka Trina was "working" from home today.... In between that she got a LOT of outdoor maintenance stuff done. @Sparky the tractor was once again put to grading the driveway.

I had a Wheel Horse in 1999 and joined Red Square in 2012 but didn't make it to the Wheel Horse Collector Club show until 2016. I wanted to make the Big Show a few years earlier but building our house and medical issues postponed my plans. The first time I knew about the show was in 2006 because of a magazine coverage but getting to know Red Square members on this site was what made this a must do.

Does this mean the UEI is destined for the museum shelf? I got mine from Eastwood a couple of years ago. As nORM would have said: " Nice little bit of kit!" ( sorry for the sideways pics but my puter won't let me rotate them)

As you can see from the diagram, pulling the B wire off stops power from the battery getting through the fuse to the ignition switch. You didn’t include a picture, so I’m assuming that your ignition switch wiring has all of the wires in a “ganged” connector that then simply presses onto the ignition terminals. Yeah, this can make troubleshooting harder! One pretty simple option is to pull off the connector, wrap the stripped end of a length of thin insulated wire two turns around the base of each of the B and S switch terminals (taking care to avoid having them touch each other, another terminal, the switch case, or any part of the tractor). Label each wire with the terminal it’s connected to and then put the connector back on (it won’t go all the way but it’ll go far enough to make contact. Now you can use your VOM to see what’s happening at each terminal by touching it to the other end of the thin wire connected to the terminal. You can use the same trick at the other connectors if your VOM probe can’t reach them

I grew up near Syracuse, NY and have fond memories of the "Suburban Park" amusement park and its amazing wooden roller coaster. It opened in 1898 and was so popular that Syracuse extended its newly formed Trolley Car System to the park's entrance. The amusement park closed in 1973 and now Suburban Park is a 128 unit apartment complex.

I know I am a day late but I know I will forget to post these next weekend so here ya go!

I kinda wanna name my tractors, but I have four kids and I can barely keep up with thier names...

And then they moved on to FoMoCo and so the F-150 Heritage was born.

If you’ve followed @953 nut’s sequence and demystification diagram in post #37 with a VOM and found 12V power before and after each and every component (fuse, switch, etc) then a “non-start” is a cosmic mystery. HOWEVER, if the very first place in the sequence where you do not see power is on the S terminal on the ignition switch (while the key is being held in the “start” position, of course) then you can begin to assume a problem with the ignition switch. I”m assuming here that you have and know how to operate a volt-ohm meter in VDC (volts DC) mode and are connecting the Minus/Gnd/Ground/Black lead to the negative/minus battery terminal and the Plus/Positive/Red lead to each location in the wiring in the sequence shown under the stated conditions (key to start, clutch disengaged, PTO disengaged, oil level OK). Also assuming that you are proceeding sequentially and not trying to jump around making guesses.

I remember that feeling from driving nails and especially when I mastered toe-nailing! A few years back I switched from my wood-handled 16 to a 12 ounce DeWalt with a slightly longer handle when I detected the onset of some elbow pain. It’s no good in tight quarters, of course, but I made a conscious effort to learn how to swing it properly and after a while it has proven itself to me. Head speed over a longer arc is the critical factor. It has a magnetic common nail-holder slot at the back of the head, so I’ve trained myself to use that for setting nails so i’m not tempted to crowd in. That said, I’m not giving back my Craftsman 19v finish nailer!

We had a good show of Wheel Horses, but this show has become an all day auction and garden tractor pulling event. The pullers Auction