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Surely I’m the last guy that figured this out. But just in case there’s anybody out there thicker than I am, a small thing. Like most everybody I keep various greases handy on the bench. After using them a bit, I started getting blisters on my tongue trying to reach it 1/2 way down the tube. So, I’d stab an acid brush down the well, usually with way more on the handle than the tip. Just cut the tube off & repeat. Unless you have a Gene Simmons tongue. 👅

May 28, 585 BC Solar eclipse, as predicted by Greek philosopher Thales, occurs while Lydians are at war with the Medes and leads to a truce. It is one of the cardinal dates from which other dates are calculated.

We are talking about a manual transmission that never gets hot enough to need additives. In my opinion a tractor that is kept in a garage or shed and has a good rubber boot on the shift lever isn't likely to need an oil change for the transmission. I have put my hand on the transaxle after two hours of mowing and the case it not even warm. If it has had a tough life with being stored outdoor and the rubber boot is deteriorated then the oil should be changed and the boot replaced.

If they fit paint them red and they are Wheel Horse weights in my book

What we preach on the plow field. Yep much as I hate to agree with Squonkies.

It took a while but I see what is rong Found it! No tools in pouch!

Decided to switch the 2 inch receiver over to the 10-8 and took the kids for a couple laps around the neighborhood.

We don't want them Jorts fallin down!

Agreed - seems that genuine WH weights are priced much higher, but, IMHO - weight is weight even if it does not come with a pedigree. It has a seasonal job to do. None of my cast iron weights carry a WH part number. All my front weights I made from 25 Lb flat barbell disc weights - a a buck a pound.... I have 2 sets of plastic coated rear weights - one set came with Crapsman decals that got freshened up with WH decals.

It’s an old door, and will some day be a slider. But it swings in

Unless there's a reason I don't keep a schedule on mine. A new to me transmission will get a good flush and refilled with either 1.5 or 2 quarts depending on a 3/4 or 6/8 speed. If you don't have a dipstick this works just fine.

Not Wheel Horse. $1 a pound

In the early days of the Unidrive, there was no top oil fill. The side fill was all that was on many transmissions. The first 6 speeds in 1967 (and maybe others) added a short nipple to allow higher fill. Similar to the pic below. Eventually Wheel Horse added the top fill tube and dipstick.

Just don't be tempted to slow the idle to below 8-900 RPM That engine is splash lubricated (no oil pump) and without enough engine speed it doesn't lubricate the top end.

Check that transmission oil after it has run in gear awhile. The crud very well could have settled out over several years.

I don’t need those/this (insert whatever it is here!) but I feel like I do. How many times have we all said that to ourselves?😂

I'm thinking the coupler might have stripped

Hi All, I was rockin' an old TroytBilt, 2001 V0809H. A friend bought a house near me and it was sitting in the yard with four flats and weeds growing up around it. He's not a guy who mows his own and was going to junk it, but asked if I wanted the tractor. I told him, "If I can turn the engine, I'll take it." That was in 2014, and I kept that mower going with spit and baling wire ever since. All good things come to an end, and it was intermittent PTO issues that finally took it down. Possibly mowing high-ish fields helped. When that electric PTO got warm, it wasn't worth a damn. Changed it, same issue. So I was looking around on CL & FB Market, but everything I saw was big box crap. I wasn't looking for cheap. I wanted a mower that would last the rest of my life. I got bit by the Wheel Horse bug! Picked up a 1993 314-8 in great shape a couple of weeks ago. It looks like it was garaged and has no rust, other than a bit on the deck, probably from mowing wet grass. I think the belts and spark plug, and the oil too, were original. Tranny oil must have gotten water in it, though. Chocolate milk foam. I go into anything like this knowing I'll have to spend a bit to bring things up to spec. My budget was $500. I changed all of the above, including new rear tires which had plenty of tread, but would only hold air for 36 hours. New blades should arrive any day. I moved the seat back and up to accommodate my long legs. This tractor is a beast in the field. All good until I ran into a weird PTO clutch issue. I need advice and will make a separate post about it. I love this tractor and enjoy reading what other members write. Glad this forum is here. Thanks to the webmasters!

Hey gang... been a while since I posted and nice to be back. I've had the horses stabled for a while due to other projects... one of which I need my C-101 for now. Last time she ran was about 2022 or so and that was a short haul. Had to do some fixes to get her running (dirty points, bad fuel shutoff bunghole) - remedied and she fired right up. I then remembered that if I ever changed the oil, it was back in 2019 when I picked her up. Opened the drain and I'll be damned if the Stones themselves could paint that slop any more black. Filled w/ 30W and refired. I then thought ok as long as I'm on my knees for this woman, might as well take a peek between her legs. Thinking she'd need a good enema, I had diesel and ATF at the ready. Popped the dipstick and hot damn... pure honey! I really can't remember changing the tranny oil so I will chalk it up to the PO changing it at some point. It shifts fine and other than a few bubbles which I'm guessing were from it sloshing around, does not appear to have any water on the stick (she is stored in the shed). I took some pics anyway... what say you guys? Change it, or send it? Thanks!

You love it! Let's not mislead any youngun's out there!

The 314-8 is a great tractor. Most of the Wheel Horse models came with a mechanical PTO Clutch and the owner manual for your tractor doesn't show an electric PTO clutch. Perhaps a previous owner changed it and you could go back to the mechanical PTO clutch.

Here's another example of how different humans think..... 🤔 Me - if I need to reach the bottom depths of any vessel such as grease oil peanut butter or a bag type container... I get a longer tool. Spatula is a go-to. BBT aka Trina - smartererer. She does like you and cuts off the container when possible.

There is a drain plug on the bottom of the transmission to get all the oil out provided you lift the front of the tractor.

KT -17 series 2 had oil pumps...WH decided not to get the oil filter. You can retro fit one if you find the parts

Over the last couple three days, we've been playing 3 dimensional magic tiles. Mrs 8N wanted her sewing room moved. This involved moving desks, tables, and shelves between houses and between basement and main floor. To help with the shelving swap between the house and lake house, I woke Pack Rat, the AC B-110, up from his winter nap today tow the garden cart between the houses to swap the items. This tractor has a very grabby clutch. It is very difficult to feather the clutch enough to NOT carry the front wheels off of the ground for a few inches. I've tinkered with this machine enough to get it usable, but it is far from where I'd like it. Today, i decided that the clutch will be the next thing I'll tackle.

I'm guilty of old oil in my transmission as well - it has been a good 6 or 7 years, maybe more. Still clean. A change is on my to do list sometime this summer. But, I've run across a couple of articles about old oil. Seems that the additive packages (things to improve extreme pressure performance, viscosity additives, etc) in the oil have a shelf life. After a period of time, the additives don't remain blended with the oil properly. I'm going to say that a change of transmission oil every couple three years would be a good idea.

I went looking for a photo of the seat pan on my C-161 8 Speed, I didn’t find one but I did find this picture of the whole tractor at @stevebo’s meet and greet 9 years ago! And yes all C-1_1’s had a dipstick in the seat pan. Nice thing about this tractor is that when you flip the seat up you will see Cecil Ponds signature he signed it at the last Big Show he attended.

Yep. Theys there.

paint a line across the hub and axle on each side then after you try to move make sure they haven't shifted. D series have very hefty axle key but they can shear. Does the engine labor at all when yo try to move???

Does the mid mount or 3 pt lift function? Does teh motion control seem to move OK (Linkages on Ds are a night mare. Also make sure tow valve is tightly closed.

I've had some dates in the past that you could calculate future events (or end of events) too... But I never dated a Cardinal!!

It’s a good day for a caption this, or better yet how many violations can you find?

yeah yeah, just there to impress the ladies! "I got a tool pouch!"

The Naked Gun movie series was derived from the TV show, "Police Squad" from the same people. Even Leslie Nielson played the same character. Police Squad only lasted a few episodes, it was a summer replacement in the early 1980s. You can catch some scenes, the opening credits, and some entire episodes on youtube. It was a funny show and as I mentioned, was the basis for Naked Gun which came after the TV show.

@Fj40z "idle" for an air cooled & splash lubed engine is a bit of a misnomer. A lot of us like to lower it as much as possible when in reality the average 1200 RPM is the absolute low minimum these engines should ever see. I set our idle speeds by ear for the most part. All of ours run higher than 1200 whe verified by digital tachometer.

That may have been the time you and I met.

One more thought on the seat switch. I looked at the schematic. When the operator is not in the seat the circuit opens and it seems like the tractor should shut down instantly. My problem "feels" more mechanical. As I push the PTO lever to engage, the engine starts to bog down. The harder I push, the more it stalls.

giantsean, tranny oil looks ok. but, when in doubt...change it out. 2 quarts of gear oil is cheap insurance for your tranny.

Makes sense then. Carry on! I have an old Makita that fell a couple times and the guard hangs up. That’s the dedicated “cuttin through shingles” saw. 😎

The only thing I see wrong is that saw with no guard. That thing belongs in the trash. personally, I wouldn’t be cutting, bending over like that. That’s what saw horses are for. I’ve never used eye or ear protection when cutting wood. Been doing carpentry for 30 years.

Take a look at the 'mule drive' - that is the set of pullies at the front of the tractor that the mower drive belt 'bends' around to get from the horizontal crankshaft to the vertical mower deck drive spindle. Might have a bad bearing there or something jammed up in the pulley housing. One of my tractors is a 1973 14-8. It is a direct ancestor to your 314-8 - many, many similarities between the two. Good tractors. Mine has done everything i've asked of it. While mowing a couple days ago, a corn cob got flipped up into the mule drive and jammed between the 2 pullies. Yup - it stopped the deck and caused a light burning rubber smell before I got everything shut down. Good luck and enjoy your Horse. Good bunch of folks here, too. I'm almost convinced that this group has broken and repaired just about anything on a Wheel Horse that can be broken and repaired. We are more than willing to offer advice - sometimes it is actually helpful.

Yes i guess they did! Well i checked on the manual and now i do recall they had a fill tube at top of the 8 speed C-161 transmission.

The rabbits have been causing me grief this year in my garden. So I made portable fencing. Used 2x2's, ripped them in half, applied the wire and screwed the two halves together. They are about seven feet long so easy to move and store. I used cull treated lumber from local lumber yard for half price and scraps I had lying around. The legs of the mole traps slip into the upright pipes and hook over the top 2x2 and hold the fencing upright. Hopefully it will discourage the deer as well. In the background there are two rabbits.

I couldn’t have done it without this forum. I have bought parts from several of you guys for this tractor and many others. Because of this forum I am a much better restorer of these tractors. Not that I am anything special but meaning you have passed on so much knowledge to me it’s not possible that I am worse at working on these tractors lol.

Definitely is. Would not be complete without one in my opinion

A worn clutch face won't bog the engine down. Just for the heck of it, check your seat switch. It's designed to shut the engine down if you try to engage the PTO while not in the seat. Sounds like the switch thinks you're not in the seat.

I had that same blower on a C-120 and the "Flag and lift rod" worked with a few spacrs. Look around the POs barn. The flag and lift rods are usually standing in a corner.

Well finally today I got around to working on the 417. First I drained all the old gas out and replaced the fuel filter. Then took the carb off and cleaned it. And once the system primed it fired right up! I drove it around for a little while to get the oil nice and hot and changed that. I also greased it and adjusted the motion control cam plate. I gave it a quick bath and degreasing. I think when I washed it even though I was careful I got some water in the points so I got no spark now. But tommorow I’ll pop the points cover off then give them a quick cleaning. IMG_2222.mov

Went to mow after work today. 654 was a no crank/start. 1st time its ever let me down in the 3.5yrs I've had it. Pushed it from back shed into garage, luckily its downhill. Look at at when I get a chance. Had to break out walk behind mower. Bought it last year & today was 1st time I used it. Had to pay up quite a bit to get the model with a Kohler engine.

Replaced muffler from parts 310-8 to 312-8 Ive been converting to Electric fuel pimp on. Got everything back together and fired right up, well after I let the epump fill lines and bowl up on carb. Works great this is one of the smoothest running 12hp kohlers Ive ever had powerfull and not a hint of smoke . Notice the tie rod in pic both look like that so thats next on list. Forgot pic of mower deck but its in great shape also. I dont belive this mochine was used alot it has a little over 500hrs showing on meter. This is the mochine I had to buy to het the 520H and really didn’t want it but glad I pulled the trigger on them .