"D"- Man 827 #1 Posted June 15, 2016 Is there a recommended "glue" for the cap or magnet on a mesh screen filter for a hydro? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
"D"- Man 827 #2 Posted June 15, 2016 Here are some pics of the filter I have, the magnet is secured via some sort of adhesive, and is O.k. but the cap is separateted from the round plastic end. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phatboy 565 #3 Posted June 16, 2016 What tranny has that filter on it ? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
"D"- Man 827 #4 Posted June 16, 2016 It is from my 18 Automatic. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 38,928 #5 Posted June 16, 2016 It's an internal filter. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 17,147 #6 Posted June 16, 2016 I would clean it completely and use epoxy. If you use RTV silicone stuff let it cure completely and then trim off any excess. A tiny piece of adhesive getting loos could easily plug up the acceleration valve holes..they are tiny. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 46,774 #7 Posted June 16, 2016 What is the dual hub set up you have goin on there?, Is that a disc for a brake Ithere?? .... .... I'm gonna need more pictures of that! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 17,147 #8 Posted June 16, 2016 Not sure about the dual hub but those are the optional turning brake discs. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phatboy 565 #9 Posted June 16, 2016 I really like thos wheel hubs,, it looks lke they go onto the axel deeper (or more of the axel goes inside them) s that true ? Or is that a optical illusion ,,, 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 17,147 #10 Posted June 17, 2016 D series (including 18 autos) hubs are much deeper than regular horses...makes removing them very difficult if they are stuck on. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 46,774 #11 Posted June 17, 2016 Looks like they can be stubborn! I suppose that a good thing sometimes for these bigger horses & the work they do. Wondering what 23 Auto had to do to extend those axles. Custom make some? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wheeledhorseman 573 #12 Posted June 17, 2016 10 hours ago, pfrederi said: D series (including 18 autos) hubs are much deeper than regular horses...makes removing them very difficult if they are stuck on. If you are thinking that Paul's puller arrangement looks like overkill I can say from personal experience with my D-200 it is not! If you use a puller with arms round the flange or a puller that bolts into the wheel nut threads on the flange you will either break the flange or strip out the threads. Yes, these hubs get stuck on that tight! The disc turning brake option mentioned earlier can be seen in this photo: Andy 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
"D"- Man 827 #13 Posted June 17, 2016 This is a magnet that separateted from the cap, as you can see the material is hard, and broke away clean. On a side note, these are axles that were made from 4041 shafts that were magnetic induction hardened to 54 or 60 Rockwell hardness at the bearing areas. A fellow Redsquare member made these and shipped them to me. These are extra long for dual rear hub mounting to accommodate two 15" x 7" wheels per axle. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wheeledhorseman 573 #14 Posted June 18, 2016 Neat project coming along there, is that a chromed tow hook? Any more little tasters coming our way? Andy 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gwest_ca-(File Mod) 10,498 #15 Posted June 18, 2016 Think I would use one of these magnets without adhesive. Use one that fits inside the recessed cavity. It is not going to fall off if the cap is steel which increases it's effectiveness. http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=32065&cat=1,42363,42348 Garry 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boovuc 1,090 #16 Posted June 19, 2016 Like Gwest_ca says! I work in the adhesives industry and I would not trust any adhesive to withstand the heat, pressures and constant current of oil on a part that can very much hose a tranny! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
"D"- Man 827 #17 Posted June 19, 2016 8 hours ago, boovuc said: Like Gwest_ca says! I work in the adhesives industry and I would not trust any adhesive to withstand the heat, pressures and constant current of oil on a part that can very much hose a tranny! On 6/18/2016 at 4:37 AM, wheeledhorseman said: Neat project coming along there, is that a chromed tow hook? Any more little tasters coming our way? Andy Andy, yes I began with a N.O.S. hitch and cleaned it up a bit {smothed the edges via sanding} then took it to the chrome shop and had them plate it. A similar hitch was equipped on the 420 LSE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 17,147 #18 Posted June 19, 2016 or maybe try a magnetic drain plug and forget the magnet on the filter Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wheeledhorseman 573 #19 Posted June 19, 2016 I've thought about a magnetic drain plug myself as an alternative but came to the conclusion that it would not be as effective due to the design of the WH-Sundstrand transaxle. To my mind the issue is that the main hydro filter is in the oil return to trans casing path and not the oil to pump pickup path hence the need for the mesh filter and magnet which filters the oil reasonably well (with the aid of the magnet) as oil on its way to the pump has to pass through. A mag drain plug would certainly attract stray iron bits to it over time but is less likely to prevent potentially disastrous bits being drawn into the pump on the fly. Just my thoughts - could be wrong. Andy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
"D"- Man 827 #20 Posted August 1, 2016 On 6/18/2016 at 4:37 AM, wheeledhorseman said: Neat project coming along there, is that a chromed tow hook? Any more little tasters coming our way? Andy I have recently picked up some of the parts that I had plated, not all were done yet, although I have not taken pictures of everything yet, I did get a couple of the decorative polished copper plated manifold and the chrome clamp thingys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
"D"- Man 827 #21 Posted August 2, 2016 Had to polish out some already tarnishing areas, due to the plating shop holding it so long. Then I used some wax remover, and give it a shot of clear (high heat) to sort of prevent any further issues. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites