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In reverse ... Guy was asking for help the other day on slow reverse on a hydro. and @Racinbob commented that horses are not supposed to go fast in reverse. Designed that way for safety reasons I suspect. Some new machines including late model Toro verticals had a key switch under the seat with a light on the dash for reverse operation when the blades were spinning. So this 520 FEL I have was always a slug in reverse. Didn't matter how the motion linkage (Matt's pedal kit) was adjusted. Seemed like it took a hour to back away from the gravel pile. The other three 520's in my herd have this issue as well but not as severe and not as aggravating as they are all snow machines and don't see a lot of reverse time it seems. Since it was in the shop for other work & maintenance something was gonna be done about it. Started by marking the full forward and full reverse positions of the motion lever on top of the hydro. To get the control plate to move the lever to go to full forward was obtainable but only allowed a small amount of lever travel in reverse. The problem is the eccentric cam would bottom out in the control plate before the lever reached it's max reverse limit. Simple enough to elongate the reverse slot. Took a little more than 1/8" out was all that was needed. The motion lever now hits it's stops in both directions & a full cleaning & lubrication of all linkage makes for a very smooth pedal greasy Pete would be proud of.

So I’ve visited this site many times over the last couple years and got some really great info but finally made an account last month. I’ve had a 77 C120 for the last couple years that I used for mowing and snow removal with a blade. A month ago I bought a 1990 snowblower attachment for it and it worked out great but I quickly got tired of switching between the snow blower and plow so I decided to buy another tractor. That turned out to be a 1973 “no name” 10HP 8 Speed. After about a week I got it running, trans unstuck, notched the right foot board to accommodate the blade angle lever, and the usual catching up on maintenance from years of neglect.

dropped my wife off at the constitution joint center , this morning , for a thumb bone issue , been to same center for hip , back work . the work is very thorough , with back up home therapy assistance , my overall opinion of this is very good , and most important is ACTUALLY GOING TO GET IT FIXED , the fear is very evident to someone that refuses to get help , that also grows in the wrong way , always having a reason NOT TO GET IT FIXED . you can sense the fear , and excuses . on the way back , stopped at walmart , just a regular day . pete

i havent got it yet, but it 20 miles away. But, what powers it? Obviously a belt. But what hooks it up? Here’s pictures. I think i should go up and get that!!!

I follow the instructions on the label so the fine dust gets trapped. After oiling the foam work it in, then remove the excess by repeatedly squeezing the foam with paper towels layered in. With no oil you will not trap anything but the large particles, the paper filters are getting expensive and blowing tiny holes in them with compressed air is not a wise move.

Heck at 76 just pick the whole tractor up and put it on my worktable ....Back what back

Well fellas . A nice warm welcome back. Thank you all. And yes part of the fun is in the search. We are still sprucing up the house to sell. A few more months before it hits the market. I been seeing wheel horses around. Close to a 150 mile radius away. Haven't seen a C175 black hood yet. I kinda liked them for grass and snow blowing. But any model is a nice one. Can't wait. Of course I will keep all of you up to speed on the journey back. It was really nice to see old familiar faces from long ago. Thanks again and bless you all. Btw, the Raritan Bay hasn't been this froze in a long time. I see the Coast Guard has some small ice breakers out there. Trying to keep the commuter ferry lanes open. Its some site every morning. Until next time. Everyone take care.

I do as @lynnmor does. No mess in the air box but plenty of fines on the prefilter. Dawn dish soap and warm water easily clean the foam, I squeeze the foam dry in paper towels and let it air dry a day or so before oiling with the same oil I put in the crankcase.

I have 3/4” spacers on my 416h and actually did wheel studs and also drilled and tapped the hubs and spacers so the spacers bolt to the hub and I don’t have to fight either trying to keep the spacers lined up perfectly while mounting the tire. My tires are loaded so was a pain to try and do all at once

Firstly, forgive my mess because I'm stuck indoors and I'll clean up when I can open the garage again. I welded a hitch reciever to my welding table for using my mini crane and for using my tire changer. But I got to thinking that it wouldn't take much weight on the crane to tip the table. So I made a folding outrigger to support it. I won't lift anything heavier than a Kohler or Onan, and I'll stay inside the 90 degree space formed by the outrigger. My back just won't tolerate moving an engine from the tractor to the table. We'll see how it works soon. At least it looks neat... and Rubble approves! Or maybe he just likes the heater...

You may be the only one. Well, maybe oily Pete.

By the time you rounded up the wheels, ratchet gears if needed basket and frame, and any other parts it is missing you would be better buying a new one.

Looks like mine except I have all the parts. I believe that is a tow behind sweeper.

One of these guys...

Looking at a bit of the narrative says it has no wheels or bag. Sounds like a normal tow behind wheel driven sweeper

I'd have them put the right piston in and save the other for the other engine.

Yep that works. Just to elaborate on the hydro, the same internal parts that provide forward also are used in reverse. It just the cam ring directs the oil to either forward or reverse from the pump to the motor. It can actually run as fast in reverse as forward.

Going to have to take a closer look on the work 416. This may be the ticket for it also. Also has a pedal kit installed

@Ed Kennell I didn’t need one when I was young either! Winter of 1984-85 when I was 14 with my Work Horse. My parents got me the plow for Christmas that year. Note the red hat, it’s an insulated winter genuine Wheel Horse hat! I wish I still had it.

Who actually does this? I know what the book says but when you do it it seems to make a mess of the air box collecting more dirt no matter how much you squeeze the excess out.

I usually spritz it with light coat of K&N filter oil. I've had the same can for about 6yrs. https://www.oreillyauto.com/detail/c/k-n-engineering/k-n-engineering-12-25-ounce-air-filter-oil/kan0/990516 I check it over at oil change time. If it looks dirty then I grab the K&N cleaner, spray it down, scrub, rinse, and re-oil. Again, this stuff goes a long way, think my cleaner bottle is about the same age as the oil. https://www.oreillyauto.com/detail/c/k-n-engineering/k-n-engineering-1-quart-oiled-cotton-air-filter-cleaner/kan0/990621

Wheel Horse doesn't make new sweepers. I have gone thru three sweepers of other brands, I only want the Wheel Horse sweeper for a collectors item. Years ago Wheel Horse wanted $85 per wheel, I missed a like new Lambert sweeper and will continue to look at other brands that only need red paint. John Deere also sold some sweepers made by Lambert. If any members want to buy a new sweeper, I have found the AllFit from Home Depot to be the best deal, they are made by Ohio Steel and are identical other than paint. Parts are reasonable and they ship quickly. You can find the AllFit sweepers on the auction site for the best price. My opinion is that all sweepers sold today should be considered throw-away items, at least the Ohio Steel can be fixed a number of times because of the reasonable cost for parts and TSC has the wheels.

With 10' ceilings I had plenty of height to install a chain hoist. The welded eyebolt exceeds the capacity of the hoist and runs up through a 4x4 spanning the trusses. Just for giggles I reinforced the trusses with additional web runners tying in the top and bottom chords. I figured it would be handy but didn't realize just how handy. Just cuz I'm a chicken I wear a hard hat while actually cranking on it. I'm not worried about the mounting but the cheap chain hoist maybe.

I don't have any good parts for sale, I would like to get it back in operation. I have a new bag but I need new tires and repair parts for the ratchet mechanism. These sweepers were made by Lambert for Wheel Horse.

With 3-D printers it might be doable....but not by me

That might be next ... but yeah sunnies are their own breed. Funny thing with them, mine anyway, some are speedsters forward and reverse. Some are snails both ways. Even with a new plate and adjusted. Never looked into it but guessed it may be fluid related or just wear & tear on the internals.

Grass and leaves

The original post in question was about an Electro12 with a sunstrand hydro. You would have to redesign the plastic slider plate to get additional throw into reverse.

Actually what I was referring to was the lever movement to get it to reverse. Basically the neutral stop. It's no secret that I'm not a hydro fan in any way but that movement drove me nuts. My wife said it really didn't bother her. I did this modification last summer to the 314-H. A mechanical stop on that bracket slot blocking the lever right at the neutral switch. From there it had to be pushed down to get to reverse. It wasn't a smooth movement from F to R. A little cutting did the trick. My wife told me the movement didn't bother her but when I was done she said she really liked it. As far as the reverse speed, I like the idea here. I would do it but this tractor will end up with a new owner this spring.

I've seen the cam itself wear a groove in it causing the same issue. Not enough pushin for the cushion!

to the Chris. Nice pair of working horses. My first one was a C-120.

Preachin to the choir here ...

The only difference between the two available Kohler filters on my zero turn is that the commercial filter uses a pre-filter, so I added one.

We usually do this on our Cub Cadet as it has a prefilter but the Wheel horses don't.

I never do for the same reason.

Chad Burris makes a nice stack that isn't bulky and it's got a decent sound. I have them on my 8hp and the 16's

Look at the QT tho Paul ... gotta buy 25. Enough to do 2 horses.

Welcome! You'll find lots of great info along with some great people!

Happy Birthday!!

I’ve been unfortunate to have back problems since I was in my twenties. Now I won’t even attempt to lift anything heavy. If someone asks me for help lifting something heavy have to apologize and say I simply can’t do it. I’d rather have someone be mad for not helping than be laid up for a week or more. When I bought the loader for my C-141, the guy said he felt like he was selling his best friend! He then explained anytime he needed to move something heavy he didn’t need to call anyone, he just used the loader. Now I know what he was talking about! The funny thing is though, like many of us here(I’m sure) my back has gone out picking up something that weighs next to nothing. Once I attempted to pick up my underwear off the bathroom floor and BOOM 🤯 I was down on my hands and knees in excruciating pain. When I crawled out of the bathroom my wife knew right away what happened. She had to help me in bed where I spent the rest of the day. I feel like I could have jinxed myself just talking about having my back go out!!

Happy birthday! Hope to see you at the Big Show again!

Run what ya brung I was told...

Happy Borned on day, Blasterdad

I love seeing the snow, no fun being in it. I am glad I still have a push blade, although in pieces in a shed. I need to get it back together. I have a gravel driveway also, kinda. We got 10-14” around the property. Way too much for this Florida boy. I don’t know how you guys up north do it.

Very sorry to hear about your loss. 60 is no age at all, I know cos I am 60 and still feel I can do the stuff I did in my 20s. The same kind of thing happens here, a lot less since we have much less snow these days. But still we go outdoors to clear a path and forget how heavy snow is and how demanding a job it is. Take it easy guys, let the snow thaw if you can. Mick.

I ordered some spacers. I’ll update the thread once they get here and I get things installed.

The 9.50 on my 520-H were like that, the 88 and 89 came with 7" wide rims. The 8 1/2" wide rims that came on later 520 would have more clearance.

A set of these & you should not need to ream out the holes in your rim. Just get longer wheel studs. https://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS/555/65058/10002/-1

I won't say I had to, but I've used spacers on several machines. They work well but you do need to be careful if using a mower deck because of the deck gage wheels clearance. You'll have to ream your bolt holes on your wheels to 1/2. They type of spacer also needs to be open in the center to fit a WH hub. You'll also need to use 7/16x20 bolts at about 1 and 1/4 length or raised head studs to hold the spacers on. I've never had good luck using WH wheel bolts with spacers. The heads are usually too large to get a standard socket on them inside the spacer.