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Surely I’m the last guy that figured this out. But just in case there’s anybody out there thicker than I am, a small thing. Like most everybody I keep various greases handy on the bench. After using them a bit, I started getting blisters on my tongue trying to reach it 1/2 way down the tube. So, I’d stab an acid brush down the well, usually with way more on the handle than the tip. Just cut the tube off & repeat. Unless you have a Gene Simmons tongue. 👅

Decided to switch the 2 inch receiver over to the 10-8 and took the kids for a couple laps around the neighborhood.

If they fit paint them red and they are Wheel Horse weights in my book

What we preach on the plow field. Yep much as I hate to agree with Squonkies.

It took a while but I see what is rong Found it! No tools in pouch!

May 28, 585 BC Solar eclipse, as predicted by Greek philosopher Thales, occurs while Lydians are at war with the Medes and leads to a truce. It is one of the cardinal dates from which other dates are calculated.

Agreed - seems that genuine WH weights are priced much higher, but, IMHO - weight is weight even if it does not come with a pedigree. It has a seasonal job to do. None of my cast iron weights carry a WH part number. All my front weights I made from 25 Lb flat barbell disc weights - a a buck a pound.... I have 2 sets of plastic coated rear weights - one set came with Crapsman decals that got freshened up with WH decals.

It’s an old door, and will some day be a slider. But it swings in

Not Wheel Horse. $1 a pound

I don’t need those/this (insert whatever it is here!) but I feel like I do. How many times have we all said that to ourselves?😂

We are talking about a manual transmission that never gets hot enough to need additives. In my opinion a tractor that is kept in a garage or shed and has a good rubber boot on the shift lever isn't likely to need an oil change for the transmission. I have put my hand on the transaxle after two hours of mowing and the case it not even warm. If it has had a tough life with being stored outdoor and the rubber boot is deteriorated then the oil should be changed and the boot replaced.

Hey gang... been a while since I posted and nice to be back. I've had the horses stabled for a while due to other projects... one of which I need my C-101 for now. Last time she ran was about 2022 or so and that was a short haul. Had to do some fixes to get her running (dirty points, bad fuel shutoff bunghole) - remedied and she fired right up. I then remembered that if I ever changed the oil, it was back in 2019 when I picked her up. Opened the drain and I'll be damned if the Stones themselves could paint that slop any more black. Filled w/ 30W and refired. I then thought ok as long as I'm on my knees for this woman, might as well take a peek between her legs. Thinking she'd need a good enema, I had diesel and ATF at the ready. Popped the dipstick and hot damn... pure honey! I really can't remember changing the tranny oil so I will chalk it up to the PO changing it at some point. It shifts fine and other than a few bubbles which I'm guessing were from it sloshing around, does not appear to have any water on the stick (she is stored in the shed). I took some pics anyway... what say you guys? Change it, or send it? Thanks!

We don't want them Jorts fallin down!

You love it! Let's not mislead any youngun's out there!

Hi All, I was rockin' an old TroytBilt, 2001 V0809H. A friend bought a house near me and it was sitting in the yard with four flats and weeds growing up around it. He's not a guy who mows his own and was going to junk it, but asked if I wanted the tractor. I told him, "If I can turn the engine, I'll take it." That was in 2014, and I kept that mower going with spit and baling wire ever since. All good things come to an end, and it was intermittent PTO issues that finally took it down. Possibly mowing high-ish fields helped. When that electric PTO got warm, it wasn't worth a damn. Changed it, same issue. So I was looking around on CL & FB Market, but everything I saw was big box crap. I wasn't looking for cheap. I wanted a mower that would last the rest of my life. I got bit by the Wheel Horse bug! Picked up a 1993 314-8 in great shape a couple of weeks ago. It looks like it was garaged and has no rust, other than a bit on the deck, probably from mowing wet grass. I think the belts and spark plug, and the oil too, were original. Tranny oil must have gotten water in it, though. Chocolate milk foam. I go into anything like this knowing I'll have to spend a bit to bring things up to spec. My budget was $500. I changed all of the above, including new rear tires which had plenty of tread, but would only hold air for 36 hours. New blades should arrive any day. I moved the seat back and up to accommodate my long legs. This tractor is a beast in the field. All good until I ran into a weird PTO clutch issue. I need advice and will make a separate post about it. I love this tractor and enjoy reading what other members write. Glad this forum is here. Thanks to the webmasters!

The 314-8 is a great tractor. Most of the Wheel Horse models came with a mechanical PTO Clutch and the owner manual for your tractor doesn't show an electric PTO clutch. Perhaps a previous owner changed it and you could go back to the mechanical PTO clutch.

Unless there's a reason I don't keep a schedule on mine. A new to me transmission will get a good flush and refilled with either 1.5 or 2 quarts depending on a 3/4 or 6/8 speed. If you don't have a dipstick this works just fine.

Here's another example of how different humans think..... 🤔 Me - if I need to reach the bottom depths of any vessel such as grease oil peanut butter or a bag type container... I get a longer tool. Spatula is a go-to. BBT aka Trina - smartererer. She does like you and cuts off the container when possible.

In the early days of the Unidrive, there was no top oil fill. The side fill was all that was on many transmissions. The first 6 speeds in 1967 (and maybe others) added a short nipple to allow higher fill. Similar to the pic below. Eventually Wheel Horse added the top fill tube and dipstick.

There is a drain plug on the bottom of the transmission to get all the oil out provided you lift the front of the tractor.

Just don't be tempted to slow the idle to below 8-900 RPM That engine is splash lubricated (no oil pump) and without enough engine speed it doesn't lubricate the top end.

KT -17 series 2 had oil pumps...WH decided not to get the oil filter. You can retro fit one if you find the parts

Check that transmission oil after it has run in gear awhile. The crud very well could have settled out over several years.

I went looking for a photo of the seat pan on my C-161 8 Speed, I didn’t find one but I did find this picture of the whole tractor at @stevebo’s meet and greet 9 years ago! And yes all C-1_1’s had a dipstick in the seat pan. Nice thing about this tractor is that when you flip the seat up you will see Cecil Ponds signature he signed it at the last Big Show he attended.

Yep. Theys there.

yeah yeah, just there to impress the ladies! "I got a tool pouch!"

Can't se Middleville from OSHA so you are in the clear.

The Naked Gun movie series was derived from the TV show, "Police Squad" from the same people. Even Leslie Nielson played the same character. Police Squad only lasted a few episodes, it was a summer replacement in the early 1980s. You can catch some scenes, the opening credits, and some entire episodes on youtube. It was a funny show and as I mentioned, was the basis for Naked Gun which came after the TV show.

Who's got one? I can haul it back to the Finger Lakes

My parents' neighbor passed Sunday night. He almost certainly wasn't a member of this forum, but he was a WH enthusiast, and a regular at the Big Show, so I thought it appropriate to post here. https://www.cocklinfuneralhome.com/obituary/Leon-Montague

That may have been the time you and I met.

giantsean, tranny oil looks ok. but, when in doubt...change it out. 2 quarts of gear oil is cheap insurance for your tranny.

I am not going to make it to big show. I really want to make it one year. It’s a fair drive for us but still would love to come at least once

squonk and Handy Don: Yes, thank you, I will do as you suggested. It will be interesting if that turns out to be the issue because- When I bought the tractor, there were a few electrical anomalies. One was that it would only start with the PTO engaged! I figured that someone had reversed the lockout switch connections. I checked the schematic and saw that there were two micro-switches involved, one using the NO and the other the NC terminals. Once I took out the battery and got a good look at the switches it was obvious that one of the plastic housings had been broken and the loose F spade plugged onto the wrong terminal. I dielectric greased everything and put it back together. Problem solved. Another issue was the seat switch. It was disconnected and jumpered somewhere down the line. Normally this wouldn't have bothered me because, on the Troy-Bilt with a hydro drive, once my foot was off the clutch, the tractor stopped. Like I wrote, I had PTO issues and hated to turn it off and on. Maybe I was tempting fate, but I mowed in steel-toe boots and always stepped wide of the deck when dismounting to pick up one of the dogs' bones or a branch in my way. But I quickly realized that the Wheel Horse is an actual tractor. As long as it is in gear and the clutch is engaged, if you fall out of the seat it's going to keep moving. I know a few people around here who have lost friends and family on farm tractors that way, so I was planning to reconnect the switch. My tractor's seat was falling apart. I found an aftermarket MTD seat for $30, but it used a different kind of switch. At first, 'cause I thought it would be more elegant (and I'm cheap), I considered adapting the Wheel Horse switch to the new seat by cutting out the WH mounting area and riveting it over a hole on the new seat. The center hole wouldn't leave enough space for the switch length, so I thought to cut a hole at the side and mount it there. But the new seat's foam was too tight and that was just a PITA too far. So I'm going to buy a switch that fits the seat. When I match to the seat's model #, all the switches that show up are square with a big center plunge button. Nothing that would fit that circle. Oh well, guess I'll have to make an adapter plate for that! But back to your suggestions, today as I was troubleshooting I connected the WH switch to its hanging cable, put it up on the seat, and sat on it while I engaged the PTO. I've checked the switch and know that it's functioning, but I was less than rigorous in my test because I was "sure" of the outcome. Let me try that again and I will get back to you.

Makes sense then. Carry on! I have an old Makita that fell a couple times and the guard hangs up. That’s the dedicated “cuttin through shingles” saw. 😎

Over the last couple three days, we've been playing 3 dimensional magic tiles. Mrs 8N wanted her sewing room moved. This involved moving desks, tables, and shelves between houses and between basement and main floor. To help with the shelving swap between the house and lake house, I woke Pack Rat, the AC B-110, up from his winter nap today tow the garden cart between the houses to swap the items. This tractor has a very grabby clutch. It is very difficult to feather the clutch enough to NOT carry the front wheels off of the ground for a few inches. I've tinkered with this machine enough to get it usable, but it is far from where I'd like it. Today, i decided that the clutch will be the next thing I'll tackle.

The only thing I see wrong is that saw with no guard. That thing belongs in the trash. personally, I wouldn’t be cutting, bending over like that. That’s what saw horses are for. I’ve never used eye or ear protection when cutting wood. Been doing carpentry for 30 years.

Yes i guess they did! Well i checked on the manual and now i do recall they had a fill tube at top of the 8 speed C-161 transmission.

As an individual who still has all his proper body parts, I see nothing wrong here.

I couldn’t have done it without this forum. I have bought parts from several of you guys for this tractor and many others. Because of this forum I am a much better restorer of these tractors. Not that I am anything special but meaning you have passed on so much knowledge to me it’s not possible that I am worse at working on these tractors lol.

Thank you guys. I appreciate it

Definitely is. Would not be complete without one in my opinion

In your other post, you mentioned moving the seat, so this seems likely to me, too. PLEASE don’t fix this by trying to circumvent the seat switch. You seem like you have the skills to come up with a clever and safe solution! On two of our tractors I added seat slides to accommodate the more than 16” height difference between the tallest and shortest operators. The latter are also noticeably less weighty than the former, and when they leaned forward to crank the steering had the engine stop! I switched the switch actuator to a longer plunger with a longer, soft spring and a plunger guide so it works well.

I had that same blower on a C-120 and the "Flag and lift rod" worked with a few spacrs. Look around the POs barn. The flag and lift rods are usually standing in a corner.

The image Mr. Richard quoted above… I thought it was the massivest stack yet for a split second!

Yep you sure can, I have one FEL machine setup that way. I eliminated the lift circuit.

For a couple more bucks you could buy a whole parts tractor.

Went to mow after work today. 654 was a no crank/start. 1st time its ever let me down in the 3.5yrs I've had it. Pushed it from back shed into garage, luckily its downhill. Look at at when I get a chance. Had to break out walk behind mower. Bought it last year & today was 1st time I used it. Had to pay up quite a bit to get the model with a Kohler engine.

I knew that sounded familiar, just couldn't place it.

Replaced muffler from parts 310-8 to 312-8 Ive been converting to Electric fuel pimp on. Got everything back together and fired right up, well after I let the epump fill lines and bowl up on carb. Works great this is one of the smoothest running 12hp kohlers Ive ever had powerfull and not a hint of smoke . Notice the tie rod in pic both look like that so thats next on list. Forgot pic of mower deck but its in great shape also. I dont belive this mochine was used alot it has a little over 500hrs showing on meter. This is the mochine I had to buy to het the 520H and really didn’t want it but glad I pulled the trigger on them .