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I am not a fan of social media per sé, but RedSquare is a whole different story. I have enjoyed this forum since 2009. Plenty of knowledge, plenty of stories, all good people. Now that I have passed the 3/4 century mark, it is heart warming to see young people are still joining and keeping it going.

Here's a copy & paste from a thread back in May '24: My own beginnings with Garden Tractors go back to my maternal "Grammy and Grampa". The local dealer to them was IHC Cub Cadet equipment. They had a yellow and white tractor back in the 70s and traded that in for a red Cub Cadet (682,782?) around 1980. My own history with Wheelhorse in particular goes back only to fall 2016. Trina and I needed a physically heavier machine for pulling heavy stuff. Sooooooooo many usages and at least 20+ Tractors have gone through our shop since. Nowadays we consider our Wheelhorses and implements to be a permanent part of our tool set for our lives. Memories? Many! Some challenging. ALL good. ************************************************** Trina now has 6 of her own mid 60s short frame light weight tractors. I have maybe 8 or 9 in various stages, all from 1974 to 1984. And of course we share the Wally Digger Backhoe. Our Wheelhorses as machinery have become an integral part of our lives. From our original need of pulling heavy stuff to the several types of OE and aftermarket implements we now have we've kept adding to the immense usefulness of the Herd. We've built an entire work shop of 10 x 40 for our equipment upkeep. Mostly Wheelhorses. Many many tools and supplies. We have our own Parts dept. Lots of both new and used items. We've built tractors for friends and for my father. My father @Qball has since passed on to that Great Tractor Playground in the Sky. R. I. P. 💜 We now have inherited that tractor and bought back the one we built for friends. We've been to shows and gatherings over the years and made great friends. We bought a large enough utility trailer to haul SIX tractors if desired. Gotta have a good showing at the gatherings ya know... Trina's been creating the Wheelhorse Redsquare Calendar for a few years now and really enjoys the project. We've received and sent gifts of small parts all the way to whole project tractors. Sharing the sickness is definitely a favorite part of mine. The BBT aka Trina and I are looking forward to many more years of Wheelhorses at work, in maintenance, in project, etc... and the people that we visit... all because of a few tractors. THANK YOU!! To Karl & Mike and everyone else who make this entire lifestyle so easily accomplished.

If you’re old enough, you probably remember Steve Irwin of the Australian Zoo. On November 15, people all over the world celebrate this amazing person and his incredible impact on the world of animals and people. Steve Irwin Day is celebrated internationally to honor the life of the infamous “Crocodile Hunter” who inspired thousands of people around the world to prioritize wildlife conservation and take more interest in and care of animals. His name is associated with environmental activism and wildlife conservation. Steven Robert Irwin was born on February 22, 1960, in a home full of animals to parents who were in love with wildlife. His father was a wildlife expert and herpetologist and his mother was a wildlife rehabilitator who took care of injured or orphaned animals from snakes to kangaroos. In 1970, Steve’s family moved to Queensland, where they opened a reptile park they called Beerwah Reptile and Fauna Park. Over the years, the name changed to Queensland Reptile and Fauna Park. Today, the park is known as the Australia Zoo, the zoo that created Steve Irwin Day in 2007. Steve Irwin might not have had a degree in wildlife, but he certainly had a lifetime of knowledge and experience. Like a real-life Mowgli or Tarzan, Steve grew up surrounded by animals. When he turned six, he was given a 12-foot python. By age nine, he wrestled his first crocodile with supervision from his father. In 1991, he got married to a woman who loved wildlife almost as much as he did, and it was footage from his honeymoon (which was spent trapping crocodiles) that formed the first episode of the TV series that brought him his fame, “The Crocodile Hunter.” The series pushed Steve Irwin into the public eye, and he became a beloved pop culture icon. On September 4, 2006, Steve Irwin was on a diving expedition filming for “Ocean’s Deadliest” when a stingray pierced his heart and killed him. His public memorial service was viewed by over 300 million views worldwide. Steve Irwin was a conservationist whose focus was on conserving endangered animals and ending illegal poaching and land clearing that could lead to the loss of habitat.

My addiction started in 2022 when we brought our 702 out of storage an got it running in May. It was also then that I learned that if everything aligns just right and you're sitting in front of the carb, you can get a fireball shot at your face.(I have experience with that because of that) My brother and I drove that tractor around for a year or so just pulling a wagon around and just having fun. Then in 2023, we went to Legoland in New York and on the way home mom and dad surprised us with the Wheel Horse Collectors Club show on the way home on Thursday. We got a few parts there such as a flat bar hitch, mower blades for a 32 inch deck and then this year when the deck was leaving stripes in the middle, we realized it is a 36 inch deck, hood knobs, and I forget if we got anything else. Then we were driving the 702 around one day and it started making all sorts of weird clanging noises. When we checked the oil afterwards, we realized there was barely any in it. We got very worried that we blew up the engine but it turned out the flywheel was just cracked and the nut was loose. Sometime in the same week as the noises, we got our first 854. We took that and the 702 to last year's show. We came home with a 1257 from last year's show. Then the one day dad said something about there being a forum for the Wheel Horses. Then I was messing around on it a little bit and the first post I made was on dad's account but I asked @dmoore what size and brand tri ribs were on his 854. Then I would occasionally go on his account and read other peoples' posts. Then this year in January, I asked him if it was free to be a member because I wanted to become a member of my own. Then a few weeks ago I was gifted with supporter status by @ebinmaine which I was very surprised and happy about. All this time, I have been amazed by how kind and helpful everyone on this forum has been.

If someone peels one off in public there are a few responses to lighten the mood;- Parp........"More tea vicar?" Very polite riposte toa trouser cough Guff......."Come in Brown, you're through" Bit of an ex forces response. Toot......."Hark! Odin approacheth" A nod back to our Viking roots Honk....."Ventus surgit" (The wind is getting up). 43 AD and the Romans come to our shores. Frrrt....."Ah shud check tha' not touchin't cloth theer owd lad". True Yorkshire concern after a window rattler. So there are plenty of amusing assides for when someone whistles in their "Y fronts" or suffers a trouser cough. I guess the boffins at NASA might say..... "Someone has just experienced a Partial Rapid, Unexpected Disassembly! " Mick

This website started with a chance meeting between a "KID" and Mike and when we have youngsters seeking information or guidance on their Wheel Horse we need to give them all the encouragement we can, they are keeping our hobby relevant,

Hi @Keith Cochrane, the 1978-79 C-Series and the 1986-87 400 Series with the twin cylinder Kohler engines and some of my favorite.

Really enjoy reading the "origin stories" here. Absolutely one of my favorite threads ever.

Incredibly understated. For me - Redsquare IS Wheelhorse.

I was using my 14-8 for spring cleanup and it wouldn't run without having the choke 1/2 on. A visitor post here resulted in prompt, good advice - from several people. I started following the forum and was impressed how friendly and helpful folks were (and still are), unlike some other forums where flaming arguments are common.

When the wife calls me out, I just tell her "I thought I just heard the 'trumpet of the Lord'." (Can't do it with a straight face though.)

Proof that SOME of what women say about us is true... We never grow up. While true, I can't imagine being any other way. If I can't have a little fun in life (just occasionally), then what is the point? I don't stay in touch with my inner child. I AM my inner child!

I've developed and managed several forums (in varying platforms) back during the big online poker boom. I also made a living for a few years designing and selling graphic modifications for online poker sites like PokerStars and FullTilt. That became unsustainable when the US DOJ shut down online poker and the US. Since then, I've developed several websites for friends and associates (but still consider it a hobby). In all of my exposure, I will say with confidence, this is one of the best maintained forums I've experienced - so kudos to the admins! It also has the most respectful members of any public forum I've ever seen. The knowledge base here is incomparable!

Has it really been 19 years? Here’s how I got here (long version): Growing up, my dad traded our old Springfield for a new 1974 C160 Automatic, and it was my job to mow the entire ¾ acre with the 36”RD and Parker sweeper. In 1993, it was my turn to buy a house, and having much more property, the only tractor I could think of getting was a Wheel Horse, and I bought a brand new 416H with a 42” RD Recycler. I used that tractor only to mow the lawn, but in 2006 I decided to buy some attachments, I couldn’t decide between a plow or blower so I hit the web to research. I am not sure how I found it, probably a search, but I found whtractor.15.forumer.com and joined as member #5. There wasn’t much discussion there except for one guy, member #2 @Sparky who he and I began to talk on-line. In those conversations, I decided on a snow plow and found the entire package, a 414-8 with plow, 42”SD deck, wagon, cheap sweeper and JD Dethatcher mounted to the mule drive. The rest as they say is history, I took over the management of the forum shortly there after, then became highly financially involved in 2011 by purchasing software, cloud space, and investing a lot of time and money to move from the failing forumer platform to where we sit today. For those who remember, forumer completely crashed literally 1 day after I got 99.9% of the data moved, the timing was unbelievable we almost lost RedSquare that day. It’s been an amazing 19 years, and so happy I was looking for a plow one day and stumbled here. Our members here are the best and I am grateful for all the support throughout the years, looking forward for the next 19 years! Thank you all for sticking around!

DEFINITELY!! The capabilities of a properly equipped Wheelhorse tractor are excellent. We use them for MANY tasks. My S/O regularly uses her 1967 tractors to grade our own yard. Here's a few videos.

There are 3 kinds of graders you can get for that tractor. 1. Front mount snow/dozer blade Pros Cheapest option typically $100+150 on FB MP Can also move snow Can push bigger piles of stone Cons harder to grade smooth 2. Mid mount blade Pro Smoothest grade Looks cool! Cons most expensive option and kinda rare. $400+ 3. Rear mount brinly type sleeve hitch box blade. Pros Smooth grade Can potentially move snow if needed not a great option though. Can be bought at tractor supply or similar farm store. $350 can be found used for around $200 Cons Could potentially be more expensive then the mid mount if you have to buy a rear sleeve hitch for the tractor. Sleeve hitch about $120 The tractor itself more then capable. For just maintenance I don't see any reason it wouldn't work very well for that, and FUN!!!

I haven't been following here much EB and hesitant to throw any pics up as I got nothing on these boys. 'Sides you guys have seen most of my calendar shots. Now I gotta go back to page one and start liking all over! These quests for calendar pics sure do bring the nice horses out the woodwork... What I noticed was many very nice restored ones still have the ratty but orginal seats!

I tell people: I tried bein' a growup adult person for about 2 decades. It sucked! So I reverted back to around 5 or 7 brain years.

We had breakfast at a Wild Egg restaurant Tuesday. We'll, it was really brunch for me. I ordered a grilled cheese sandwich that had a mix of cheeses, roasted tomato, bacon jelly and spicy dill pickle slices. The pickle really set that sandwich apart.

Let's just say the contests here have two sides......

Today, I changed the name of the tractor, formerly known as Frankenhorse, to Johnny Cash. It's a '73 16-auto, with a '72 14 Horse Kohler, a '74 (or later) Sundstrand Hydro, and a '71 hydraulic lift. Even though I knew the Sundstrand was newer, I brain farted when looking up the mounting gasket to the transaxle and ordered the gasket for a 1973 (#5955) from @daveoman1966, who even noted that they were for hydrogear only, but it didn't register in my tiny brain. To make it more confusing you can substitute the #102759 for the #5955, but not the other way around. Additionally, there's a seller on eBay listing #5955 gaskets as #102759 - so my first picture reference was misleading I'm only out a few bucks, but having to wait on parts is torture. Anyone needing gasket #5955 let me know.

This is the only forum that I support and for good reason, like others have mentioned the people are very friendly and helpful on here. Which is to the credit of the Admins on here, they don't tolerate the couple bad apples that ruin it for everyone, so thank you guys for that! I joined in 2017 when I got my first Wheelhorse 73 12-8, I think I came across Redsquare in a google search. I grew up using a Raider 10 so I was already familiar with them. But have gained so much more knowledge since then, with much more to learn.

HAPPY ANNIVERSARY RED SQUARE !!! My Dad had 4 Wheel Horses and a small lawn bussiness when I got out of the Navy. He had a 502 (all there but in pieces), a 702, an 857 and a Raider 10 with a good mixture of attachments. I would help my Dad if needed, but as he got older, the bussiness dwindled to nothing. He passed in 2002 and it was up to me to go through everything. When I got to the shed, I considered myself lucky...my Dad never threw out anything, especially if it had RED on it. I needed help. I searched the WEB and found a Kowasaki site. A guy named Jon Bell got in touch with me and pointed me toward Red Square. Even on the old forumer site, all were helpful...finally had manuals, advise and I imersed myself into Dad's horses. The rest is history, this place has kept me alive and well. I feel like I know almost everyone here. I have friends from all over the world, I love this place. Happy Anniversary Red Square and Thank You !!

That was an awesome day @kj4kicks, secretly Eldon had obtained a C160 Auto (Just like my dad’s) and asked me if I wanted to do a trade for a C160 (in rough shape) for my Electro and one other which I forget what it was. Anyway, Chris and Mike came to my house, they knew what was about to happen, and we took my Durango and trailer to Eldon’s. When we got there, he opened the door and there sat one of the nicest C160’s you’ve ever seen. Eldon travelled a long distance, then painted the C160, it was a magical day for me.

I was in the tractor scene and was pretty much a WH guy but would bring home anything if I could flip it for a couple bucks. Posted up on Craigslist a Craftsman lawn tractor and a guy named Chris from two towns over reaches out to me about it. We talked price and eventually settled on a number, then he asks if I could deliver it. Didnt really want to, but decided I would. Get to Chris’s house and he’s a “kid” ..I had no idea as we were using the Craigslist messenger system. He shows me his tractor stuff and he had a 702 (and maybe a Black-Hood?). We exchanged phone numbers and did a few other tractor deals and became friends. Fast forward to his high school years and he asks me to join a tractor forum he started as a high school project, had zero members other than himself. I became member #2. Left to right: Chris @whchris, me/Sparky, Dustin @DMESS , Karl @nylyon

I had owned a few Wheel Horses prior to buying my GT-14 in 2012. It was my first hydro and I wasn't sure about a few things and Googled Wheel Horse GT-14 which lead me to a few sites. I posted my questions on three or four sites. Got a rater rude response on one of them, nothing at all on one, but on Red Square I received good information from a couple of members and a bunch of welcomes. What a difference. I began reading other posts and offering suggestions on some I felt knowledgeable about and learning from other posts. This has become my only internet GO_TO site and I want to thank all of the people who have continued to make it so great.

Santa just called, he wants to use the tractor at the North Pole, seems like some of the reindeer called out this week.

Those are reasonable prices.

At tractor gatherings we often have contests in $h1'ting ones pants ain't that right @Achto. Not to mention dropping the kids off at the pool ...

I was doing a case study on addiction and this site kept turning up in my search results.

I've survived many things in my life that made me wonder how, but usually the scary part was out of my hands. But so far I am still here, thank God. Bumps, burns, stitches. No major injuries other than my pride. @Mickwhitt beat me to it though. We always referred to occurrences like the video of natural selection in action... That guy needs to stay away from any machines more complex than a hair brush.

That is what my father called it he passed away 27 years ago and that phrase reminded me of Dad.

Cub Cadet also used Ross steering gear boxes, here is a link to some listings that may be helpful. https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=ross+cub+cadet+steering&_sacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2334524.m570.l1313&_odkw=cub+cadet+steering&_osacat=0&_sop=10 This thread from @Lane Ranger should be helpful too.

Mike thanks for that info. I bought valves for them early this year I hope they turn out to be good.

Having worked on small many years ago, I was told the grinding was to remove the casting flash and the spot drilling was the counterbalancing..

I finally got an update today. My order is processed and shipped. Looks like it left the Medford Post Office about 3 PM local time today, should see it Tuesday. Maybe I'll take it and my stuff along to the boy's archery practice Tuesday and rebuild a pump and ram at the range. His practices are two hours, I can't leave, and I have pretty much nothing else to do during that time because all I know about archery is "string go thwap".

Here it is, post #1:

Thanks to everyone who replied with the suggestions and the experiences they have had with this issue. Starting to soak the part with as much penetration oil possible and then begin to apply pressure to (hopefully) remove the hub without cracking the transmission . Stay tuned for more feedback and once I am successful with one wheel, I will proceed to the second one.

@1987_WHEEHORSE312 also agree on the LED DIFFERENCE , DO A LOT OF ROAD EDGE PLOWING , often at night , minimal traffic , etc , the back of the tractor is just glowing red , also have a reflector back there . at walmart , they have a wall full of same size bolt on lights , looks like a perfect fit . also wear a reflective vest . pete

It’s all Bob Rock’s @whlpny fault. I needed a new lawn mower and was kicking around the idea of something new and modern, but saw this really awesome looking old lawn mower. Yeah, I had wool over my eyes too. When I got there, I was a little upset that the mower deck was gone, the whole reason I went looking to grab it! He had the deck on the scrap pile, nobody wants those for a garden tractor. Tractor? This cute little thing can’t do tractor stuff! He told me about the wealth of knowledge of this forum, and when I got home I joined. That was June of 2013, if I recall correctly. Honestly, reading Karl’s story about the almost crash in 2011, blows me away that the place is still kind of young. The shirt I’m wearing this morning is older than Red Square! My cute little mower:

If you use Kroil Penetrating Oil be extremely careful about getting this on your skin, face or eyes. This stuff is pretty toxic. I have used before and it does break down rust but it is dangerous to your body if you get it on you- clean it off fast! https://www.kroil.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/AEROKROIL-NA-GHS-9-4-24.pdf

Well, at least no blood was spilled. You're getting better,

Current plan for snow (now that the 854 and blade are ready) is to keep the wood box stocked.

Thanks Mike, I'm glad the delivery worked out and she'll finally get some serious work.

Shout out & thanks Ed! The snowblower is great. Bring on the lake effect snow storms

The comparison between the LED and the sealed beams is quite significant, I just scored a couple more pair of vintage tractor lights earlier this week. I like the ones with the cupped base and internal wire, but they're harder to locate.