857lover 291 #1 Posted April 3, 2022 (edited) ok so ive been having a fuel issue for a while so what happens is that it runs fine for a couple hours then it dies like just dies doesn't bog downb and die it just dies or you shut it off then it doesn't start again and i clean the carb that's brand new its a i save tractors carb and then it works for a couple more hours then bam same issue and i just keep cleaning the carb even though it dosetn seem dirty and then i put on a 75 micron fuel filter from kholer and flushed my tank and still this persists and i pulled the old metal fuel pump off and for some reason it dosnt have a rod on it that actually pumps so i put on from my k301 to see what would happen and now i cant even get gas out of the pump any ideas is the pump on a k301 diffrent from a pump on a k181? Edited April 3, 2022 by 857lover Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ri702bill 9,400 #2 Posted April 3, 2022 Yes, they are different - the 181 has a "straight" lever, the 301 has a bend in the lever. No rod? - does it have lever? could be vacuum actuated .... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
857lover 291 #3 Posted April 3, 2022 48 minutes ago, ri702bill said: Yes, they are different - the 181 has a "straight" lever, the 301 has a bend in the lever. No rod? - does it have lever? could be vacuum actuated .... yeah there is no lever Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 18,650 #4 Posted April 3, 2022 Earlier K181s frequently came with pulse style (no lever) pumps 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 43,780 #5 Posted April 3, 2022 Did you ever get your belt problem resolved before moving on to this problem? 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
briankd 819 #6 Posted April 3, 2022 my 857 same does not have lever . I bought a rebuild kit for my original fuel pump came with diaphragm and check valves was fairly cheap . can't remember who I got it from . they were in Massachusetts or Connecticut 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
857lover 291 #7 Posted April 4, 2022 5 hours ago, squonk said: Did you ever get your belt problem resolved before moving on to this problem? yes i did but this has been happening before i even put the 6 speed in but i just kept “cleaning the carb” but it always seemed clean but now it is worse and it will run after sitting for ever on idle but once you run it high it will run for maybe a minute then die Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
857lover 291 #8 Posted April 4, 2022 1 hour ago, briankd said: my 857 same does not have lever . I bought a rebuild kit for my original fuel pump came with diaphragm and check valves was fairly cheap . can't remember who I got it from . they were in Massachusetts or Connecticut should i just check clearance ?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skrusins 128 #9 Posted April 4, 2022 That would be. https://www.then-now-auto.com/kohler-fuel-pumps-2/ I also had that same problem on my K181 finally went to a low flow electric fuel pump, no more problems. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 43,780 #10 Posted April 4, 2022 25 minutes ago, 857lover said: yes i did but this has been happening before i even put the 6 speed in but i just kept “cleaning the carb” but it always seemed clean but now it is worse and it will run after sitting for ever on idle but once you run it high it will run for maybe a minute then die What about the problem you had with it not climbing? Did the pulley fix it? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
857lover 291 #11 Posted April 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, squonk said: What about the problem you had with it not climbing? Did the pulley fix it? well there was a couple things i changed the pulley that helped a little but i put a heavier reurn spring and i unhooked the clutch/brake rod and turned it in one turn and it really helped 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
857lover 291 #12 Posted April 4, 2022 6 hours ago, pfrederi said: Earlier K181s frequently came with pulse style (no lever) pumps can i just instal a pump that has a lever Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 18,650 #13 Posted April 4, 2022 12 hours ago, 857lover said: can i just instal a pump that has a lever Yes but it has to be a pump for a K181 Big blocks use different levers. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rjg854 12,175 #14 Posted April 4, 2022 It may just be a $10 diaphragm that is your problem. Buckrancher sells them. I've changed a couple over the years. Not hard to do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rjg854 12,175 #15 Posted April 4, 2022 It may just be a $10 diaphragm that is your problem. Buckrancher sells them. I've changed a couple over the years. Not hard to do. Have you pulled the fuel line that comes from the pump to the carb? Crank the engine, do you get a good pulse of fuel? If not the diaphragm might be it. Are you getting any fuel in the crankcase? That's a sign of a leaking diaphragm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
