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K321 runs hot, misfires erratically

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Snoopy11

This here is what you don't want to see...

 

How to Read Your Engine Valves

 

Don

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Snoopy11

For the valve seats...

You can take a sheet of Emory cloth, cut out several 2" x 2" squares and poke a hole in the center.

 

small engine valves

Sticking the Emory cloth squares onto the valve, you can reach into the valve chamber and turned the valve stems with your fingers, while keeping light pressure on the valve head. Rotate the squares back and forth on the seat, switching from medium grit to fine grit as needed.

renew valve seats on small engines
 
Don
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Snoopy11

New valves would be about 40 bucks... probably worth your investment... but again, you 'might' be able to get away with reusing your old valves, as long as there is an airtight, liquid tight seal.

 

Don

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oliver2-44

 

25 minutes ago, 1979 C-101 said:

 I did Snoopy11's test and after two hours the exhaust leaked very little but the intake leaked down completely within a minute. Snoopy11, what do you mean in your last message "valve stems"?  I can tell you that through the outlet of the block the exhaust valve stem is not shiny or rusty, kind of grey in color. The intake valve stem is shiny in some places and has rust in other places.

If you don't have a 1 gallon can of carb dip, you can clean the head up with a plastic scraper or even a piece of hardwood sharpened to an angle scraper.  You just don't want to use any hard metal scraper that would scratch/gouge the aluminum head.  

From what you've told us I don't see any reason you need a total rebuild.  But at a minimum you need to get that intake valve to seal .  your hope is some carbon on the stem or seat or rust is preventing that intake valve from seating.  I would also check if the intake valve stem is bent or head is warped.  i like to chuck them in my drill press on the slowest speed and hold a pencil tip as a fixed point to compare to.  Since you will be pulling the breather, I would pull both valves, clean ALL of the valve surfaces , stem bottom of head, seating surface, top with a brass or fine steel wire brush in a grinder.  Then I would inspect them with a magnifier glass.  If you only see tiny pits you can probable lap them and check if it reseals.  If you have large pits or burn marks time to grind valves.  Check the seat in the block for pits or burn marks as well. 

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1 minute ago, oliver2-44 said:

 

If you don't have a 1 gallon can of carb dip, you can clean the head up with a plastic scraper or even a piece of hardwood sharpened to an angle scraper.  You just don't want to use any hard metal scraper that would scratch/gouge the aluminum head.  

From what you've told us I don't see any reason you need a total rebuild.  But at a minimum you need to get that intake valve to seal .  your hope is some carbon on the stem or seat or rust is preventing that intake valve from seating.  I would also check if the intake valve stem is bent or head is warped.  i like to chuck them in my drill press on the slowest speed and hold a pencil tip as a fixed point to compare to.  Since you will be pulling the breather, I would pull both valves, clean ALL of the valve surfaces , stem bottom of head, seating surface, top with a brass or fine steel wire brush in a grinder.  Then I would inspect them with a magnifier glass.  If you only see tiny pits you can probable lap them and check if it reseals.  If you have large pits or burn marks time to grind valves.  Check the seat in the block for pits or burn marks as well. 

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MONEY!!! :music-deathmetal:

 

Don

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1979 C-101

I'll do as the two of you suggest with the valves. It will be a winter project.   Thanks again to everyone!!! 

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