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K181 Valve Noise

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I dug into the K181 on my 856 that has been sitting for at least 20 years. Taking off the air cleaner housing I saw quite a bit of oil pooled in the cover and in the throat of the carb.

 

When turning the engine over I am getting a pretty audible click. It is definitely coming from the exhaust side. I removed the breather cover and everything looks fine with the springs. Rotating the engine and placing my finger on the exhaust spring I can feel the snapping quite a bit. One thing I find interesting is that it only does it every other revolution. I am assuming has something to do with the tappet.

 

The video pretty clearly has the sound and shows how the valves are behaving during the cycles. You can see the exhaust valve jump when it makes the noise. 

 

Here is a link to the video on YouTube. YouTube K181 video

 

MVI_2492.MOV

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pfrederi

The ACR makes the exhaust valve open slightly on the compression stroke.

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The Tuul Crib

Is the valve spring possibly broke?

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pfrederi

K-181 valves are not adjustable have you checked the valve tappet clearance.  per manual it is .017 -.019 cold.  If they are too loose it is repair by replacement.  To tight you grind a hair off the valve stem.  be very careful not to get carried away.  i have a nice tick on one of mine as i took off a bit too much. 

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Mr Magoo
55 minutes ago, pfrederi said:

K-181 valves are not adjustable have you checked the valve tappet clearance.  per manual it is .017 -.019 cold.  If they are too loose it is repair by replacement.  To tight you grind a hair off the valve stem.  be very careful not to get carried away.  i have a nice tick on one of mine as i took off a bit too much. 

I will check that next. Any idea why it would be happening on every other revolution? 

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ebinmaine

Would that explain one valve?

Intake. 

Compression.  

Power. 

Exhaust. 

 

Down. 

Up. 

Down. 

Up. Noise. 

Down. 

Up. 

Down. 

Up. Noise. 

 

I'd agree one of the 2 valves is in need of attention as you surmised. 

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pfrederi

Note the spec I gave you is for the exhaust valve only (thought that was the issue,,,  Intake is tighter  .006 to .008.

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Mr Magoo
13 hours ago, pfrederi said:

Note the spec I gave you is for the exhaust valve only (thought that was the issue,,,  Intake is tighter  .006 to .008.

So how did you grind your valve stem? Doing the valves is the one thing that is intimidating me from doing a rebuild myself. I have never done a rebuild. 

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pfrederi

I used a grinding wheel but it took too much off to fast.  I would see if some one more skilled answered.  Do you have a valve spring compressor??

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Mr Magoo
11 hours ago, pfrederi said:

I used a grinding wheel but it took too much off to fast.  I would see if some one more skilled answered.  Do you have a valve spring compressor??

I do not. I will have to pick one up when I get into it. 

 

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