Starter Question for 300 / 400 Series Owners

[hotajax 226]

Good morning, gents:

 

I have 314-H.  Starter acting like it's on its way down.  I can get a factory OEM starter for $300 Last time I looked, or maybe get an aftermarket.  I tried to get an aftermarket a few years ago, and it didn't fit.  I could hear teeth banging.  Vendor did take it back.

 

So my question to you is this.  Have any of you purchased an aftermarket starter that worked?  Do you remember who you bought it from?  Just because the ebay ad says it is for your tractor, it doesn't guarantee it will fit.  Thanks in advance.  Hot Ajax

[kasey54 305]

There is one listed on Isavetractors.com for kohler k.  Its listed under his "new" tab.

[hotajax 226]

Thanks will check it out.

[lynnmor 7,822]

If possible, get a good used one, the aftermarket starters and many that Toro claims to be OEM are imported junk.

[ebinmaine 72,699]

8 minutes ago, lynnmor said:

If possible, get a good used one, the aftermarket starters and many that Toro claims to be OEM are imported ....

That's what I was going to say.

 

I'd much rather install a known good used unit from somebody like A to Z tractors then to put on a cheap imitation.

 

Is yours rebuildable?

[Achto 29,404]

6 hours ago, hotajax said:

  Have any of you purchased an aftermarket starter that worked? 

 

For new aftermarket or OEM check with these guys. http://www.psep.biz/store/kohler_starter_motors.htm

 

You must know if you have a 10 or a 13 tooth sprocket on your original starter.

[953 nut 60,027]

Be sure the starter you buy has the same number of teeth on the Bendix drive as yours. There are a couple different ones depending on the engine size. An automotive starter repair shop should be able to repair yous or get a good used one. The after market junk isn't worth the money.

[hotajax 226]

On 5/26/2020 at 2:36 PM, ebinmaine said:

That's what I was going to say.

 

I'd much rather install a known good used unit from somebody like A to Z tractors then to put on a cheap imitation.

 

Is yours rebuildable?

Yes, it is rebuildable.  However, when I go to the local guy ( younger guy who seems to have no appreciation for quality made "old" products )  who fixes starters and generators ( remember when real cars used to have a generator? ) he won't fix it.  He tries to set me up with some aftermarket crap.

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[ebinmaine 72,699]

4 hours ago, hotajax said:

Yes, it is rebuildable.  However, when I go to the local guy who fixes starters and generators ( remember when real cars used to have a generator? ) he won't fix it.  He tries to set me up with some aftermarket crap.

 

Pop the starter off and see if it's an obvious issue.

Then order a starter kit as needed.

 

[hotajax 226]

I have a question, I'm sure one of guys would know.  When I look at the pics of starters on the 'net, they all have this pretty shiny black shaft.  Is this a cover over the shaft that is removed prior to installation?  Thanks in advance.  Hot Ajax

 

PS:  When determining whether the drive is clockwise or counter-clockwise, which end of the starter is closest to your nose? 

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[Achto 29,404]

9 hours ago, hotajax said:

have a question, I'm sure one of guys would know.  When I look at the pics of starters on the 'net, they all have this pretty shiny black shaft.  Is this a cover over the shaft that is removed prior to installation?  Thanks in advance.  Hot Ajax

 

PS:  When determining whether the drive is clockwise or counter-clockwise, which end of the starter is closest to your nose? 

 

The shiny black shaft is a cover over the Bendix spring. No need to remove it prior to installation, the only reason to remove it would be to replace the Bendix drive.

 

Clock wise or Counter clock wise direction should only be a concern when purchasing a starter/generator. Bendix drive starters should all rotate the same way.

[Lee1977 7,214]

On 5/26/2020 at 1:00 PM, hotajax said:

Thanks will check it out.

K-series and Magnum starters are different. The early 300 and 400's had the K-series and the later ones had the Magnum series.