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Curious what year  and what models were the first long frame WH. My 1267 is a long frame and my 857 is a shortie. What's the easiest way to tell by pictures? 

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ebinmaine

I'm not sure if one could tell by a pictures unless you had them side-by-side as a comparison. I know that the amount for the hood is a little different on my 1267 versus Trina's 867. Sits a little higher off the front of the frame.

 

As far as I know the 12(#)7 were the first long frames, not counting the big wheel tractors.

 

I may not be 100% right but I'm under the impression that from 67 to 72, small block engines were short frames and big block engines were long frames.

 

Not sure about 73. I do know that 74 and 75, the B80 frame was a mid-length frame. No longer short.

 

 

 

 

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wallfish
1 hour ago, squonk said:

What's the easiest way to tell by pictures?

The long slim hood

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Pullstart

1076 might have the 12x7’s beat by a year...  it seems longer than my short frames..
 

 

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Achto
2 hours ago, squonk said:

Curious what year  and what models were the first long frame WH

 

I believe that anything 1966 or newer with a 10hp or larger engine was a long frame. I know that my 1076 is a long frame.

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squonk

My main question is: Is a 1075 a long or short?

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kasey54

Ithink its the same as the 875. Short

 

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kasey54

I also think its the last short made.

 

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Pullstart

This is @76c12091520h’s picture from one of his hauls...  (Happy Birthday too!)

 

Sure looks short to me. :handgestures-thumbupright:

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ebinmaine

1075 is a short frame. Yes. It's the only big block short frame in the 60s series of tractors.

 

The 10 horse pan is a smaller pan and there's no dipper on the connecting rod to make up for the loss of space.

 

 

10 minutes ago, kasey54 said:

I also think its the last short made.

 

It's the last and only short, with a big block.

 

After that, 6 or 8 horse only on a short frame tractor.

 

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857 horse

i know i never have any technical input,,,,,,,,,BUT !!!!!!!  

 

I cant say i have ever seen runningboards on a short frame,,,,,,,,??!!??!!!

and viseversa most all long frames do have them....             no,,,??  yes ??   :banana-rock::banana-skier:

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ebinmaine
8 minutes ago, 857 horse said:

i know i never have any technical input,,,,,,,,,BUT !!!!!!!  

 

I cant say i have ever seen runningboards on a short frame,,,,,,,,??!!??!!!

and viseversa most all long frames do have them....             no,,,??  yes ??   :banana-rock::banana-skier:

Nearly.

 

1966 and 1967 long frame had stirrups.

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Achto
3 hours ago, squonk said:

My main question is: Is a 1075 a long or short?

 

I may have had my dates wrong. A 1075 should be the same as a 1076, both long frames I believe. I'll do some research.

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ebinmaine
4 minutes ago, Achto said:

 

I may have had my dates wrong. A 1075 should be the same as a 1076, both long frames I believe.

I just realized that third character is a 7 which would indicate a hydro. What year was the first Hydro? 

 

 

For some reason my mind registered that as a 1045.

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Achto

1965 was the first year for hydro.

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BOB ELLISON

Not sure if you can tell by pictures.

 

Long frame- Short frame

The first long framed Wheel Horse models came out in 1966.

 

Here is a list of short frame Wheel Horses.

 

1961 - 701

1962 - 502, 552, 702, Lawn Ranger

1963 - 603, 633, 653, 753, Lawn Ranger

1964 - 604, 654, 704, 754, 854, 1045, Lawn Ranger

1965 - 605, 655, 855, 875, 1075, 1055, Lawn Ranger

1966 - 606, 656, 856, 876, Lawn Ranger

1967 - 607, 657, 857, 867, Lawn Ranger

1968 - Commando 6, Commando 8, '500' SPECIAL, Lawn Ranger

1969 - WORKHORSE 700

 

Other tractors like the 1974 and 1975 model B-80 were considered a mid frame.

 

Wild Bill in Richmond, Va

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Achto
2 hours ago, squonk said:

My main question is: Is a 1075 a long or short?

 

I did some searching through the manuals Mike, here is my findings.

 

1076, 1276, 1077,1277 all known long frames used frame part number 6456

 

875 and 1075 both used frame part number 6102 this is the same frame that was used on an 876. 876 is a known short frame so I guess that your 1075 would be a short frame.

 

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squonk

Ok I guess that answers my question. I know of a 1075 with a wrecked hood and a NOS hood for a long frame

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