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[scwheelhorse 56]

Hello. I am new and just acquired an old c120. Will need lots of help.

[ebinmaine 73,016]

7 minutes ago, scwheelhorse said:

Hello. I am new and just acquired an old c120. Will need lots of help.

Oh nice.

Looks like maybe a 1976 or 7?

I don't see any hood ornament.

 

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[pfrederi 18,719]

Welcome!!!

 

  The C-120 are great simple tough machines  No fancy wiring no isolation mount.  Tough and reliable.

[scwheelhorse 56]

I found it on Letgo for 150.00. Seller had put a new carb on it and said it ran. It had sat a long time. He never ran it because coil was hooked up backwards. I bought another carb on Ebay and got it to run but only if you hand choke it on and off to keep running. Dont understand because carb is new. Deck is in great shape.I think someone took good care of it before sitting. Probably belonged to somebody who died and tractor was forgotten. I accidentally left the key on and busted the coil so will be buying a new coil and points from Ebay. That not getting gas issue has me puzzled. New carb so should run fine.

[ebinmaine 73,016]

There's a few things to put into consideration.

Having come from a background in the auto parts industry I can assure you that a new part is not always a working part.

 

If your carburetor is one of the Chinese cheapo knock-offs there's a fair chance that it isn't working right. some of us have had great luck with those and others, not so much at all.

 

since the tractor has been sitting there is a very good chance that you need to do a fuel system refresh. Get a carb kit. . some new fuel line. A fuel filter. Do the appropriate cleaning and replacement of Parts and get some NON ETHANOL gasoline.

 

Starting with those things will get you headed in the right direction.

[scwheelhorse 56]

I have the factory carb and a kit for it BUT I noticed the butterfly is missing and screws that hold it on were wrung off.Thanks to the seller I am guessing.

 

I found oem Kohler points on Ebayfor 13.00  Aftermarket coil about 28.00.Cant afford to go back with all factory parts.

 

[ebinmaine 73,016]

nothing wrong with an aftermarket coil as long as it'll feed that thing correctly. There are internal and external resistors and I don't remember which you need but someone else may chime in.

 

you'll have to experiment with it a little bit but you may be able to borrow the butterfly from the replacement carb and put it into the original Kohler carb. Check the vertical throttle shaft in the bore of the original carb to see if it is extremely loose because that will be a trouble spot for excessive air entry.

 

[Stormin 9,985]

 And congratulations on your FIRST Wheel Horse. Definitely sounds a fuel problem. Do as Eric suggests and take things from there.

[The Tuul Crib 7,339]

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[scwheelhorse 56]

Well I actually have 2 china carbs and the original. One china carb was on tractor when I bought it but had old gas inside. For 14.00.. I just bought another one. As for the original I have a machine shop here who does cheap work. He can probably repair the throttle shaft for under 20.00

[ebinmaine 73,016]

2 minutes ago, scwheelhorse said:

As for the original I have a machine shop here who does cheap work. He can probably repair the throttle shaft

Yeah there you go

[pfrederi 18,719]

You need an internally resisted coil.

[SylvanLakeWH 28,630]

[scwheelhorse 56]

I am going to fix my ignition screwups first then address the carb. Not giving up on the china carbs just yet. Where could I get the proper replacement butterfly?

[scwheelhorse 56]

1 minute ago, pfrederi said:

You need an internally resisted coil.

Yep I knew that.

[ebinmaine 73,016]

4 minutes ago, scwheelhorse said:

I am going to fix my ignition screwups first then address the carb. Not giving up on the china carbs just yet. Where could I get the proper replacement butterfly?

Pop an ad up in our wanted section or check the flea Bay

 

you could also call A to Z tractors but I don't know if he sells carb parts or just whole carbs.

 

[scwheelhorse 56]

The china butterfly may fit but I dont know. Like I said. Not tossing the china ones just yet. I am going to clean the china carb that was on it and try it.

[ebinmaine 73,016]

3 minutes ago, scwheelhorse said:

The china butterfly may fit but I dont know. Like I said. Not tossing the china ones just yet. I am going to clean the china carb that was on it and try it.

yeah don't throw away something if you can get it to work. My issue with those is that I bought one for my c-160 and I cleaned it three times. Inside and out. After the third time I got irritated enough that I took it off and bought a used original and rebuilt that instead.

It solved the problem.

 

 

there are quite a few people on this site that really like those and have had great luck with them.

 

[scwheelhorse 56]

1 minute ago, ebinmaine said:

yeah don't throw away something if you can get it to work. My issue with those is that I bought one for my c-160 and I cleaned it three times. Inside and out. After the third time I got irritated enough that I took it off and bought a used original and rebuilt that instead.

It solved the problem.

 

 

there are quite a few people on this site that really like those and have had great luck with them.

 

I cant see any difference in the 2 if you ask me. Kits are the same. The Carter is repairable but I am not comfortable doing it myself. I dont want this tractor being a money pit buying this and buying that to end up with something worthless. Did that with another brand years ago.

[ebinmaine 73,016]

18 minutes ago, scwheelhorse said:

cant see any difference

that's just it.... The differences are internal. The passages are often not the same size.

 

 

the issue I had was that the machine work was not cleaned up properly and I kept getting metal filings in places where they did not belong.

 

you probably won't have the same money pit issues with the wheel horse as you have with other brands because there are quite a few of us that have our own personal salvage yards and parts availability is very very good.

 

[scwheelhorse 56]

1 minute ago, ebinmaine said:

that's just it.... The differences are internal. The passages are often not the same size.

 

 

the issue I had was that the machine work was not cleaned up properly and I kept getting metal filings in places where they did not belong.

 

you probably won't have the same money pit issues with the wheel horse as you have with other brands because there are quite a few of us that have our own personal salvage yards and parts availability is very very good.

 

 The tractor seems to be in good shape if I can just get her to run right. Engine sounded good. I drove it around and changed out the rear end oil. If the deck is noisy I will replace the bearings over winter. Its gonna be a worker not a restoration. Will be used simply to mow my grass. That's it.

[ebinmaine 73,016]

13 minutes ago, scwheelhorse said:

gonna be a worker

Absolutely nothing wrong with that. We have four. 2 fully restored. 2 mechanically restored.

All of them are workers. That's what they were built for.

 

[The Tuul Crib 7,339]

16 minutes ago, scwheelhorse said:

 The tractor seems to be in good shape if I can just get her to run right. Engine sounded good. I drove it around and changed out the rear end oil. If the deck is noisy I will replace the bearings over winter. Its gonna be a worker not a restoration. Will be used simply to mow my grass. That's it.

You may want to clear some space 

cause they tend to multiply!!! 

[Stormin 9,985]

21 minutes ago, scwheelhorse said:

  Its gonna be a worker not a restoration. Will be used simply to mow my grass. That's it.

 

  Now WHERE have I heard THAT before?

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