Winter project head scratcher

[James dennison 8]

Ok lads hope you can guide me in the right direction I’ve just bough  a wheelhorse raider 12,8 speed 1974 non runner. I’ve connected a new battery and not so much as a click I managed to cross the starter to get the engine to turn over and it does, but as to where I go next I’m not sure, also I’d appreciate a point in the right direction for parts as I’m in Northern Ireland I’m guessing they will have to be shipped over the pond. Many thanks 

James.

[ebinmaine 72,707]

Hi and 

 

 

Luckily for you that tractor has a pretty simple electrical system.

 

Couple things in particular come to mind.

huge issue with a DC electrical system is to make sure that all the grounds are clean and happy.

 

Also, you should have a couple safety switches 2 take a look at and be sure they are working. One is on the PTO handle and the other one should be on the clutch pedal.

 

 

[Stormin 9,985]

Also check the solenoid.

[James dennison 8]

Super, will do 

[953 nut 60,067]

Looks like a good complete !  The wiring is very simple and the attached manual should be all the guidance you will need. Cleaning and tightening all of your electrical connections may be all that is needed.

If your tractor has an electric clutch on the PTO it should be in the off position and your clutch for the transmission needs to be down.

 

[Digger 66 3,488]

Welcome James , good to have 'ya !

[SALTYWRIGHT 861]

WECOME TO RED SQUARE. MY DAUGTHER LIVES OVER NEAR YOU.  SHE HAS BEEN THERE FOR OVER 28 YEARS NOW.   RUSS

[SylvanLakeWH 28,439]

[Pullstart 66,813]

 @James dennison!

[peter lena 9,279]

welcome james , in addition  to what was recommended  above any grounding point can benefit from a clean surface and some dielectric grease at the connection. yours is a relatively simple set up , making it easier , good luck  with your  check off list , let us know , pete    

[Tractorhead 9,212]

Hi james, 

 to 

 

most is said to your Tractor‘s electrical System.

 

by doing closer investigations, pics allway‘s be helpful. 

 

 

[James dennison 8]

Thanks for the manual and the welcomes, a check of the solenoid tonight and she is a duffer. 

[The Tuul Crib 7,339]

 Well it looks like the Red Square team has pretty much outlined what needs to be done so may I say ... 

 

to the best damn tractor 

site on the inner web called You wontfind a nicer crowd!!    Now. !!

[James dennison 8]

Looked at the carb tonight and it is green so I assume that it isn’t original but it didn’t seem that dirty on the inside 

[Tractorhead 9,212]

A cleaning at the electrical System seems reqired.

see a lot of dirt on the solenoid, i guess the rest will look also same.

Groundconnection and Batteryterminals maybe too.

Cleaning with a brassbrush i would recommanded.

 

After Cleaning, a light Film of Vaseline on the Connectors and Screwterminals

will protect your Contacts after for long term and it prevent oxydation.

Vaseline is non conductive and prevents Water and/or Salt in Winter can harm your Contacts.

 

But use it carefully, otherwise it give ugly Fat- stains.

Edited September 3, 2019 by Tractorhead
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[James dennison 8]

Update, new solenoid fitted and she is now on the key 👍 she is turning like a banshee but not running so I cleaned the points and that’s as far as I’ve got suggestions hints and tips welcome my knowledge is limited .

[James dennison 8]

Update, new solenoid fitted and she is now on the key 👍 she is turning like a banshee but not running so I cleaned the points and that’s as far as I’ve got suggestions hints and tips welcome my knowledge is limited .

[pfrederi 18,685]

Spray some carb cleaner into the carb throat   then crank.. Does it fire or at least pop and stumble.  if so you have spark your problem is the carb or fuel supply.

[953 nut 60,067]

5 hours ago, James dennison said:

cleaned the points and that’s as far as I’ve got

Do you have spark at the spark plug?

[Mickwhitt 5,131]

Hello James and welcome.

I'm in north of England and rebuilding a K360 engine.

I'm encountering similar problems to you and just taking them one at a time. I'm trying to find a replacement coil that doesn't cost the earth at present. 

Mick 

[James dennison 8]

Good news she is alive I treated her to a new spark plug and ran the fuel straight into the carb on a gravity system and away she went although il have to check out the exhaust as it was smoking heavily as if blocked by mouse etc so great news now to rebuild replace a few things one thing I notice I’m missing is the choke handle can these be got ??