spark problem c161

[mariuszaerox 12]

 

Hello, in this plug, the orange cable is supposed to give voltage when turning the starter? because it gives 0.20v how much should it be? I removed the black cables from the relay and then the same ... or else a capacitor? I assumed the old one from the motorcycle, but there is still no spark. help....

[mariuszaerox 12]

[gwest_ca-(File Mod) 10,498]

 

Hello, in this plug, the orange cable is supposed to give voltage when turning the starter? because it gives 0.20v how much should it be?

The orange and yellow wires are for the charging alternator and have nothing to do with the ignition system or spark.
The yellow wire powers the headlamps.
The orange wire charges the battery but engine must run much faster to produce voltage.

With all the small wires disconnected from the engine it should run so remove all of them. Work at getting the engine to run and then we can work at connecting them back on.
You may need to clean the point contacts so they make a better connection when closed. Also make sure the wires at the points are not shorted to the engine. That will stop the spark.

 

[mariuszaerox 12]

I would also like to bypass the ignition switch and check if there will be a spark, which wires should be bridged so that the starter turns and there is an ignition?

[mariuszaerox 12]

??

[gwest_ca-(File Mod) 10,498]

Hope you understand this

 

Disconnect all other wires from engine and engine should run.

 

Garry

 

[mariuszaerox 12]

hmm, I know electricity on an average basis, i.e. how many cables do I need for a spark without an ignition switch? only + and - for the starter?

[mariuszaerox 12]

I think I have to give up, unplugged the ignition, + given from the battery to the electromagnet, weight - from the battery to the engine and then zero spark, cables at the breaker also all disconnected ...

[gwest_ca-(File Mod) 10,498]

The wire to the breaker points needs to be connected to the coil and condenser.

Just the wire going to the relay needs to be disconnected.

 

Garry

[gwest_ca-(File Mod) 10,498]

3 hours ago, mariuszaerox said:

hmm, I know electricity on an average basis, i.e. how many cables do I need for a spark without an ignition switch? only + and - for the starter?

Yes

[mariuszaerox 12]

can you have some hand drawing? I also have these cables, rather not original, someone was burying ... and I am weak in this electricity ...

[mariuszaerox 12]

and a capacitor is needed for a spark?

[gwest_ca-(File Mod) 10,498]

Here is a service manual for the engine.

Service manual Section 02 Ignition

17 pages 922KB

 

Found this also

https://www.briggsandstratton.com/eu/pl_pl/home.html

May not help

 

Garry

[mariuszaerox 12]

so the coil must have this thin cable connected to the circuit breaker?

[mariuszaerox 12]

and the capacitor must be selected by number? could it be, for example, from a car? old fiat 126p

 

[gwest_ca-(File Mod) 10,498]

5 hours ago, mariuszaerox said:

so the coil must have this thin cable connected to the circuit breaker?

 

Yes

 

Try the Fiat capacitor. May not be the correct value but should work to get spark.

The capacitor must be secured to the engine metal (ground) to complete the circuit.

 

We call them a condenser.

 

Garry

[mariuszaerox 12]

just hold it with your hand to the engine?

 

[gwest_ca-(File Mod) 10,498]

Add a jumper.

 

Garry

[bottjernat1 2,189]

DId you make sure its grounded properly? LOL

[mariuszaerox 12]

and what should be the break between the coil and the magnet? 0.20 mm or 0.30 ??

[gwest_ca-(File Mod) 10,498]

You do have breaker points don't you?

If so air gap is .25mm -- .36mm

 

Here is a way to check the resistance of the coil. I don't know the exact values but primary will be low ohms and secondary will be high ohms.

 

Garry

[mariuszaerox 12]

something is still wrong, sometimes jerks him as if he wasn't going to one of them