Axle and transmission info pls

[Bean701 35]

My 312 I understand is equipped with a fragile Eaton transaxle.  My tractor does NOT have hydro deck lift.  My old GT1800 which I plan to salvage parts from has the more stout 1100 hydro setup with the hydro lift.  Can it be made to work in the smaller 312 tractor with minimal hacking?  

 

While im here, I’m also wondering if the larger front wheels on my GT will fit on the front axle of the 312 or if I would have to swap the whole axle...

[pfrederi 17,147]

I will defer to the Eaton guys (I am a sundstrand guy) on the hydro swap.  As to front wheels you can swap them however the front of the tractor will sit a bit higher not a big deal but if you use it for mowing you may have some issues with getting the deck level.  You can take the front spindles off your donor and use them.

[JoeM 7,636]

Should not be any hacking at all. I switched a 516 over and all bolt on stuff.

Other than wanting the hydro lift, if that 700 transmission is running it can last a long time. My daughters machine has well over a thousand hours on it and is still mowing grass.

It is pretty nice to have a complete donor machine. Would it be better / easier to swap the engine to the GT?

 

 

[953 nut 51,721]

There have been several post on swapping an Eaton 1100 in place of a 700.

 

 

[Bean701 35]

3 hours ago, 953 nut said:

There have been several post on swapping an Eaton 1100 in place of a 700.

 

 

I must be weak at searching, I didnt locate a whole lot.  

[Bean701 35]

3 hours ago, OILUJ52 said:

Should not be any hacking at all. I switched a 516 over and all bolt on stuff.

Other than wanting the hydro lift, if that 700 transmission is running it can last a long time. My daughters machine has well over a thousand hours on it and is still mowing grass.

It is pretty nice to have a complete donor machine. Would it be better / easier to swap the engine to the GT?

 

 

I actually don’t really care about the hydro lift, I just plan to push snow and want this thing reliable.

[JoeM 7,636]

I suppose the 700 is perceived as a week link, but in dealing with the age of the machines you can be never sure.

I looked back though some project pics and found the only difference is in the hydro control lever arrangement. No big deal just one is on of the pivot the other on the right but hooks right up.

If your not using the hydro lift, you will have to take one of the hoses from the valve bank and run it to the pump to eliminate the hydro valve.

The rest should be the same, bolt it up, hook up the brake, use the same belt, adjust and let r eat.

 

700 linkage

1100 linkage

[Bean701 35]

Now, on to my next question- Was it possible to lock the rear axle on any Wheel Horse tractors, be they hydro or gear?  I see this as a major limiting factor in plowing snow, cultivating, etc.  

[pfrederi 17,147]

There was no 'Locking ".  Some pullers weld up the differential but you do not have much luck trying to turn corners

 

Chains and weights  get things done.

 

The 10 pinion differentials used in Raiders/Chargers were limited slip but not locking. My snow horses (plows and Blowers) are all Chargers because of that advantage.

[953 nut 51,721]

9 hours ago, Bean701 said:

Was it possible to lock the rear axle on any Wheel Horse tractors, be they hydro or gear?  I see this as a major limiting factor in plowing snow, cultivating, etc.

If you have wheel weights, liquid filled tires and chains you will be amazed what a  can do.

[The Tuul Crib 7,332]

On 8/25/2019 at 10:12 AM, OILUJ52 said:

I suppose the 700 is perceived as a week link, but in dealing with the age of the machines you can be never sure.

I looked back though some project pics and found the only difference is in the hydro control lever arrangement. No big deal just one is on of the pivot the other on the right but hooks right up.

If your not using the hydro lift, you will have to take one of the hoses from the valve bank and run it to the pump to eliminate the hydro valve.

The rest should be the same, bolt it up, hook up the brake, use the same belt, adjust and let r eat.

 

700 linkage

1100 linkage

 Looks to me like they just flip-flopped  that shifter plate .

[JoeM 7,636]

2 hours ago, The Tool Crib said:

Looks to me like they just flip-flopped  that shifter plate .

Yep, I think I may have used one on an 1100 series, just flipped it over.

[Bean701 35]

For some reason I forgot I made this thread.  Looking forward to moving on this.  I’ve decided I would like the hydro lift to work on this as I can see how during snow pushing it can get tiring having to use the handle.