JoeA 3 #1 Posted July 30, 2019 How do I remove the PTO clutch adjustment rod can I remove the dash board where the key is located reach in and pop the carter pin on the rod or do I need to remove the side panel where the PTO engagement handle is located This is on a 312-8. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peter lena 9,316 #2 Posted July 31, 2019 remove battery, that will give you access to linkage and pin. before you remove it, note all the gap in the pivot point on the linkage. i washer ed up that gap first and lubricated it, that also tightened up the outside lever gap to engage PTO. since filling the linkage gaps, the linkage works with total mechanical ease. what are you pulling it for ? pete. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeA 3 #3 Posted July 31, 2019 24 minutes ago, peter lena said: remove battery, that will give you access to linkage and pin. before you remove it, note all the gap in the pivot point on the linkage. i washer ed up that gap first and lubricated it, that also tightened up the outside lever gap to engage PTO. since filling the linkage gaps, the linkage works with total mechanical ease. what are you pulling it for ? pete. I am pulling because I think the Rod might be bent I just bought the tractor a 417/a and having trouble getting the PTO to engage I want to compare the rod to my 312/8 I have gone through many adjustment and new clutch disc the last thing to check I think is the adjustment rod although on a different post someone did mention a the Hoop may not be correct for the PTO so just trying to narrow down and trouble shoot the issue. From a former CT guy thank you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peter lena 9,316 #4 Posted July 31, 2019 that hoop issue could be the could be the triangular top lever on the engine mount. , i experimented with moving the lever under the engine bracket , that gave me the free swing space i needed to use the hoop in a lower location, with much smoother engagement . i have 3 horses , set up the same way , chances are the rod is not the issue , but the angle its trying to work with . i also added a heim joint to the end of each rod, eliminating that clevis joint. i would still washer up/ tighten the lever swing point next to battery , that was a poor detail design, making it a solid/ tight lever swing totally changes its action. pete Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peter lena 9,316 #5 Posted July 31, 2019 JOEA, pictures of heim joints i have added thttp://www.wheelhorse.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=7483o improve movement in lever and connection areas, pete 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeA 3 #6 Posted July 31, 2019 7 minutes ago, peter lena said: JOEA, pictures of heim joints i have added thttp://www.wheelhorse.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=7483o improve movement in lever and connection areas, pete Pete Thank you for the pictures and the input Is the threaded rod just a straight rod or did you have to put some bends into the rod ? Thank You Joe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peter lena 9,316 #7 Posted July 31, 2019 it is NOT just a straight rod, but has a tight 90 degree end bend, ( that you should tighten up with added washers for a more direct action ) on the dash board end. then it has an angular rise to meet the pto hook up and that end is threaded for the clevis to pto fit. take it apart slowly and look at what you can tighten up ( with washers ) and work it at stages to verify a gain or the same. pete Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lee1977 7,232 #8 Posted July 31, 2019 What model Wheel Horse? There is a difference between some models. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeA 3 #9 Posted July 31, 2019 26 minutes ago, Lee1977 said: What model Wheel Horse? There is a difference between some models. 417-A Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lee1977 7,232 #10 Posted July 31, 2019 Here are pictures of my 520-H and 312-8 they look the same to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 18,719 #11 Posted July 31, 2019 Rods are the same part number 300 and 520. Hoops are different. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeA 3 #12 Posted July 31, 2019 4 hours ago, pfrederi said: Rods are the same part number 300 and 520. Hoops are different. Thank u Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeA 3 #13 Posted July 31, 2019 4 hours ago, Lee1977 said: Here are pictures of my 520-H and 312-8 they look the same to me. Thank u fro the pictures Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
