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John deere 317-it came home

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Mudrig150

So, crazily, I haven't made any threads about my 317.

I brought it home at the end of February, for 150$. I'd been looking at it since December. The guy said it had a new driveshaft, but it also has a new dash and hitch. He also said it had a blown engine and that was even a bit of an understatement.

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The KT17 blew up HARD. It destroyed both pistons, the crankshaft, camshaft, both jugs, and the block in the explosion. It had a 1/4 inch of rust in the jugs, locking the pistons in place. Oof, time for a new engine. That search took 3 months. In the meantime, I had my brother cut the bad 3 point hackery off the back and of course when he did that he cut right through the transmission sight tube. Oh well, it was burned anyway from the welding.

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I was trying to pull the steering wheel off to get the column out, but in the process the slide hammer accidentally caught one of the spokes and literally exploded the steering wheel. I put a cub cadet steering wheel on it.

I swapped the flat front tire and really bad rear tires.

Then of course, I cleaned the tractor up, I towed it down to the pump shed then back up just to then realize afterward that the tie rod ends were so worn they were quick-attach. Guess that expedited the plan to swap out the tie rod ends.

I pulled the brakes off, and the right side literally has 0 pad material left, so the pedal goes to the floor.

I bought a K321 to try and drop in, but sadly the poor thing was rebuilt REALLY badly, and it had a destroyed rod and crank. The ridges were so deep, you could feel them with your finger, and even worse with your fingernail. Along with the K321, I also got the one remaining side panel (so I have one now), my brother's 300 that he sold to the guy, a really nice 212 hood with only 1 messed up, but not ripped off mount, and a minty 140 seat. From the 300, I took the steering wheel, rear PTO cover, brakes, and front caps but my brother stole the caps from me for his patio 140 because he previously owned the 300, but he said he'd let me have them back AFTER he, in a couple months, finds a correct front plate for the 140, despite the fact that the caps were off of the 300 that I went to pick up and I asked about. He's still trying to steal MY seat for his 140.

I got a 140 for free, and with that I got a set of free early 212 side panels. They fit and bolt up perfectly, and only need a bit of trimming to allow the fenders to bolt on.

The other day I pulled the harness out to rebuild it, as only 3 wires out off all of them aren't spliced.

Yesterday, after we got done working, we went and picked up a magnum 18 for the tractor, it's sat for a while and it only turns half a turn, so I think it has a stuck valve or two.

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JCM

Always liked the look of the mid to late 80's JD Garden tractors. In 1989 i went to a local JD Dealer in Mass to check out 2 Models, a 318 ,265 and possibly a 420.After i was quoted 3995.00 for the 265, 17 HP with 38" deck, 4895.00 for the 318, 18 HP with 38" deck, both with Hydros I didn't bother to ask about the 420. I almost pulled the plug on the 265 but really wanted the 318 but after reading on here about how difficult they are to work on maybe I did the right thing with the purchase of a new 312-8 WH. I know I made a good decision on the WH but still like the look's of those year tractors.      Good Luck with you project.

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Mudrig150

Well now they've depreciated so much that even I can afford them. Never too late to get one now!

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bds1984
1 hour ago, JCM said:

Always liked the look of the mid to late 80's JD Garden tractors. In 1989 i went to a local JD Dealer in Mass to check out 2 Models, a 318 ,265 and possibly a 420.After i was quoted 3995.00 for the 265, 17 HP with 38" deck, 4895.00 for the 318, 18 HP with 38" deck, both with Hydros I didn't bother to ask about the 420. I almost pulled the plug on the 265 but really wanted the 318 but after reading on here about how difficult they are to work on maybe I did the right thing with the purchase of a new 312-8 WH. I know I made a good decision on the WH but still like the look's of those year tractors.      Good Luck with you project.

 

I second the difficult to work on part.  I'll never understand the need to have so many pulleys just for a transmission drive belt.

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A 318 and a 265 are two totally different beasts. The 265s are not as good, but the 318s are as you said, hard to work on. It's not that they require special tools, its just everything is so cramped its difficult to try and do anything. An early 300 series is better.

The 318 has a lot of easier to put on parts, the 265 is way too tedious. One thing wrong and everything goes haywire.

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Mudrig150

Pulled the heads off, found out the reason it only turns over half a turn is because there was a crap ton of rust in the cylinder.
Got that cleaned out and now it's good. 3.122 inches, so it's pretty close.
Got the magnum 18 set in the frame. Just need to get a key for my driveshaft and get the head bolts torqued down. Wiring still needs to be done.

Headlight switch was an absolute nightmare to get out.
Last night I got the 300 seat swapped and fenders cleaned and bolted down. This seat was AWFUL. All 4 bolts are ripped out of the seat pan so the PO of the fenders removed the padding, flipped the bolts, then added a bunch of washers.
The fenders are super nice, and so are the side panels I got for the tractor, which, by the way, didn't fit. To get the side panel to fit, I ended up just breaking off one of the tack welds then peeling the air scoop off the side panel. Guess it works. Just need to get the fuel tank in and hooked up.

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Wow, 88 days since my last update...

Oil filter is in, motor is in the frame, did my trans fill tube mod, got fluid in the transmission, set my motor in the frame, and a whole bunch of other stuff.

 

All that time and still not running. But hey, it has a set of literally brand new brakes in the back, stole them from the 300 parts tractor.

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Mudrig150

Nice. Thinking about mounting the remote oil filter above the air cleaner. I'll be able to just put a catch pan in the base, and any drips will just oil the precleaner. Do you guys think I'll be able to run the 210 side panels? I don't see why not.

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ACman

If I remember correctly @Goldann520 is a John Deere guy  . I’m not a big green tractor fan :snooty: but do appreciate all old iron that was built to last . My cousin owns the holy grail of JD gt’s . A 1963 110 that his grandpa brought brand new . It’s the 138’th off the line.

 

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Mudrig150
8 hours ago, ACman said:

If I remember correctly @Goldann520 is a John Deere . I’m not a big green tractor fan :snooty: but do appreciate all old iron that was built to last . My cousin owns the holy grail of JD gt’s . A 1963 110 that his grandpa brought brand new . It’s the 138’th off the line.

 

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That's really nice.

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Stormin
On ‎10‎/‎8‎/‎2019 at 1:59 PM, Mudrig150 said:

 Do you guys think I'll be able to run the 210 side panels? I don't see why not.

 

If they fit, I don't see why not.

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Mudrig150
5 minutes ago, Stormin said:

 

If they fit, I don't see why not.

Everyone says that they help with cooling but I'm not seeing it. Air comes from the back of the tractor and up through the belly screen, then most of it goes into the flywheel shroud and is pushed over the heads, while the rest resumably escapes around the front then goes under the muffler shroud and out the bottom of the frame. Don't see why allowing it to go out the front will hurt anything.

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Mudrig150

Wood waxed. Gonna pull the body panels off and clean em all real good, then pull the motor back out.

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