Docwheelhorse 2,740 #1 Posted March 26, 2019 Hello all, Looked at a small Wheel Horse "collection" tonight and made a good deal with the guy. In the pile is what appears to be a Suburban 400 thats all original and 90% complete... exhaust shield is miising and a few other small things. My question is... while it has the cast iron front axle of a Suburban it also has the 3 piece steel axle tube 4 speed. Is it a very early Suburban or is it an RJ with a conversion front axle? It does have the original Kohler K91 in it. How can I figure out... no S/N label on it. Thanks Tony 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebo-(Moderator) 8,541 #2 Posted March 26, 2019 That is a 1960 suburban with the RJ tranny, In 61' they went to a two piece 3 speed. Hood has the lever throttles instead of push and pull as well. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,532 #3 Posted March 26, 2019 The 1961 401 was the last to use the 3-piece transmission case. Garry 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wallfish 18,244 #4 Posted March 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Docwheelhorse said: How can I figure out... no S/N label on it. Post a few pics of it 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 60,405 #5 Posted March 26, 2019 Show us the throttle and choke levers/knobs and the engine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oliver2-44 10,784 #6 Posted March 27, 2019 2 hours ago, Docwheelhorse said: Hello all, Looked at a small Wheel Horse "collection" tonight and made a good deal with the guy. I Show us pictures of this "small collection" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Docwheelhorse 2,740 #7 Posted March 27, 2019 Hello all, thanks for info... Ill get pics as soon as I can. As far as cables... they have knobs so maybe arent original. It does have the round plate with on off switch... didnt notice what style recoil it has. Hood hasnt been cut at all... it is dented and gas tank straps are riveted. Tony Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SPINJIM 1,986 #8 Posted March 27, 2019 17 minutes ago, Docwheelhorse said: Hello all, thanks for info... Ill get pics as soon as I can. As far as cables... they have knobs so maybe arent original. It does have the round plate with on off switch... didnt notice what style recoil it has. Hood hasnt been cut at all... it is dented and gas tank straps are riveted. Tony That would make it a 1961 Suburban if the hood and cables are original. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wallfish 18,244 #9 Posted March 27, 2019 (edited) Sounds like a 61 model 401 Push pull knobs for throttle and choke with the big knock out plug. The pedal should be cast. 1960 had a steel bar pedal and the controls were levers Edited March 27, 2019 by wallfish 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMC RULES 37,211 #10 Posted March 27, 2019 Looks like this? 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Docwheelhorse 2,740 #11 Posted March 27, 2019 Hello All Again---so to tighten it up even more (and perhaps start realising that it has been modified etc... over the years...) This "Suburban" has a K91 in it that apears to be correct color---didn't look at recoil assembly It has the three piece transmission... It has push pull "knob" throttle and choke cables... It has the typical "Firestone Snow Tire" 6-12's and 4.80 / 8 fronts... It has NO FOOT PEDALS---just the 3/4" round bar across it... It has the open front / open rear, sheet metal screwed on panels closed sides mower deck.... No tool box or rear fenders... no exhaust shield.... Hood is dented and gas tank has been riveted in place---but it is not cut or broken at the lower front nose mount Hood has Wheel Horse stamped in it (raised) and painted white Pics to come when I get it home Tony Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SPINJIM 1,986 #12 Posted March 27, 2019 42 minutes ago, Docwheelhorse said: It has NO FOOT PEDALS---just the 3/4" round bar across it... How is clutch (belt) engaged without a foot pedal on the left side. Many Suburbans have no footrests, but it would have to have a foot pedal (steel on the 1960; cast iron on the 1961). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Docwheelhorse 2,740 #13 Posted March 27, 2019 Ooops... thats what I meant but couldn't think of word. It has no FOOTRESTS... there is a pedal but aghain don't know if its the steel one or the cast iron one... Tony Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebo-(Moderator) 8,541 #14 Posted March 28, 2019 Tony ... how about some pictures?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Docwheelhorse 2,740 #15 Posted March 28, 2019 Pics as soon as I get it home... I promise. Tony Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wallfish 18,244 #16 Posted March 28, 2019 10 minutes ago, Docwheelhorse said: Pics as soon as I get it home... I promise. Tony Where are ya? Tibet? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Docwheelhorse 2,740 #17 Posted March 28, 2019 Im home in Andover, this little guy is in Norwich with (2)C120s (ones real rough... other is a running "beater" class... plus (2) 42rd decks, a 36rd deck and most of a 42" plow. Its a co-worker, I got pile cheap and need to make arrangements to pick up Tony Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wallfish 18,244 #18 Posted March 28, 2019 Oh, we'll let you slide then Don't forget to poke around looking for attachments,engine, parts that go to that suburban. Especially a belt guard 5 minutes ago, Docwheelhorse said: other is a running "beater" class Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Docwheelhorse 2,740 #19 Posted April 28, 2019 Here are the long awaited pics... A running C101, a beat to death C121, A plow, (2) 42 rd decks, a 36 rd deck and the 32 " deck for the mystery Suburban... so can anyone tell me what year it is? Im going to start researching the S/N. Thanks Tony 3 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 60,405 #20 Posted April 28, 2019 1961 401 Suburban. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZXT 2,401 #21 Posted April 28, 2019 Which in the pictures is the beat c121? None of them look bad. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Docwheelhorse 2,740 #22 Posted April 28, 2019 Hi, Trust me the 121is beat... it was in the bed of the S10 in last pic. Tony Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
