cazngz 19 #1 Posted January 27, 2019 Well, after a few years of not owning a WH I happened to get another one.. First one was a monster D-18, great tractor but after 20 years it was more than I could handle to repair it. Fast forward to today and I happened to get another one, an Electro 12 that runs fine but has a leak underneath the shifter somewhere. Haven't had a chance to look at it but if it's half as good as the D-18 it will probably outlast me. Obviously its a 12 HP and from what Ian remember has an auto type trans like the D-18.. I always ran Dextron in the D-18 ( for 20 years, no issues ) but I seem to recall that this model might have had another type of fluid in it depending on the year. Anyone steer me towards info on this machine like issues common to this model ? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 18,720 #2 Posted January 27, 2019 If it is red it is Dexron ATF (Buy the Dex/Merc ATF now available). Filter is Wix 51410 If fluid is tan/yellow it is 10w-30 motor oil do not mix them!! Electro/Chargers are one of my favorites I have 5. The leak is probably from #51/52/55 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cazngz 19 #3 Posted January 27, 2019 2 hours ago, pfrederi said: If it is red it is Dexron ATF (Buy the Dex/Merc ATF now available). Filter is Wix 51410 If fluid is tan/yellow it is 10w-30 motor oil do not mix them!! Electro/Chargers are one of my favorites I have 5. The leak is probably from #51/52/55 Very helpful... thank you It was my second oldest brother's tractor. He passed a few years ago and his daughter gave it to my oldest brother who is almost 82.. He has 13 garden tractors and can't keep up with all of them so he gave it to me his youngest brother ( I'm 73 ) So the WH has made it thru all three of us.. Just something special about that to me.. I'll end up giving it to my nieces son since my son isn't interested in this stuff.. 2 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 18,720 #4 Posted January 27, 2019 (edited) Great History!! They made Electros for several years and there were changes especially in the engine's ignition system. You could have battery and points, Magneto and points or breakerless ignition. Make sure you are aware what you have as the wiring is different and a mistake can make expensive magic smoke Some manuals Edited January 27, 2019 by pfrederi 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cazngz 19 #5 Posted January 27, 2019 1 hour ago, pfrederi said: Great History!! They made Electros for several years and there were changes especially in the engine's ignition system. You could have battery and points, Magneto and points or breakerless ignition. Make sure you are aware what you have as the wiring is different and a mistake can make expensive magic smoke Some manuals Amazing wealth of information..... again, thank you :) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 60,405 #6 Posted January 27, 2019 BACK TO Great story on the ownership, most of us don't know much of the background on their tractors. Paul has given you a lot of good information to work with. Any further questions just ask. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cazngz 19 #7 Posted January 30, 2019 On 1/27/2019 at 4:24 PM, cazngz said: Amazing wealth of information..... again, thank you On 1/27/2019 at 3:04 PM, pfrederi said: Great History!! They made Electros for several years and there were changes especially in the engine's ignition system. You could have battery and points, Magneto and points or breakerless ignition. Make sure you are aware what you have as the wiring is different and a mistake can make expensive magic smoke Some manuals I have either a D series or C series plow and frame. Would either fit on the Electro 12 ? It's not in my garage yet, in my brothers shed naturally all the way in back of his other tractors so it will be a chore moving all of them to get at this one. A neighbor gave the frame/plow to me and I'm pretty sure he said it was a spare for a D-16 his son had. If I remember correctly this blade is a 48 incher and the plow on my D-18 was a 60 in. I don't know if that indicates a difference in the frame. I remember I quickly decided my D-18 was a designated snow removal machine after taking off the mowing deck and putting the plow back on..,. the deck never went back on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 18,720 #8 Posted January 30, 2019 D- series plow frame will not work on your Electro Sorry. C series frames will Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cazngz 19 #9 Posted January 30, 2019 4 hours ago, pfrederi said: D- series plow frame will not work on your Electro Sorry. C series frames will Any idea why the frames had different size plows if they were both D frames ? I do remember that I used the skid shoes from the other frame and they fit the larger plow. If it is in fact a D frame I guess I'll try to find someone that either wants it or would swap it for a C frame. I might be in for a long wait Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ericj 1,579 #10 Posted January 31, 2019 some one on here used a D series plow on a 416 becuase he had it and his D broke. It aint suppose to work but it did from what I recall of the story. eric j Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sarge 3,465 #11 Posted January 31, 2019 D series plow frames are much larger and heavier, by quite a lot. You'd have to fabricate a modified rear axle bracket at a minimum to mount the thing. Blade size should be 54" or 56" - they are not lightweight, either. Sarge Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cazngz 19 #12 Posted January 31, 2019 25 minutes ago, Sarge said: D series plow frames are much larger and heavier, by quite a lot. You'd have to fabricate a modified rear axle bracket at a minimum to mount the thing. Blade size should be 54" or 56" - they are not lightweight, either. Sarge Boy do I know the blades are heavy. The frames aren't lightweight either. I remember I had an issue with the rear protrusions that kept slipping out on one side and me getting a jack out in the snow jacking it up far enough to get it back on. I ended up welding extensions on each side to end that issue. The pump went out on the D-180 and I neither had the time nor expertise to attempt to buy another one or repair it. Heck of a pushing machine in its day when I bought it.. It was " only " 26 years old when I got it. Served me well until a few short years ago. Can't remember having anything going wrong until the pump went out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sarge 3,465 #13 Posted January 31, 2019 After I modified mine, reinforced it and added the new 1/2" 1055 cutting edge - I do regret that every time I take it off for any reason. That blade weighs about as much as a Lawn Ranger before fluids. I will say this - since the mods/repairs to that blade, it has performed excellently - in some ways, almost too good. Going to be a lot of cleanup this spring for sure. Sarge 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cazngz 19 #14 Posted January 31, 2019 3 minutes ago, Sarge said: After I modified mine, reinforced it and added the new 1/2" 1055 cutting edge - I do regret that every time I take it off for any reason. That blade weighs about as much as a Lawn Ranger before fluids. I will say this - since the mods/repairs to that blade, it has performed excellently - in some ways, almost too good. Going to be a lot of cleanup this spring for sure. Sarge Exactly why I decided the D-180 was for pushing only after the first mower removal and frame/plow mounting. I now have a 3000 series Cub Cadet with the factory hydraulic blade setup. It ain't no WH but it does pretty well. What I thought was un-necessary at the time I now find to be a real plus and that's the power steering. And it was only 14 years old when I bought it 3 years ago. The Electro 12 will definitely have a blade to take down back in the woods for cleanup, hauling etc... heck I've got three lying around including a really thick aluminum blade my neighbor also gave me that was on his IH 12 HP garden tractor. I'd guess its between 3/8 and a 1/2 inch thick. He used to ram into three feet high brush piles and push it farther back in his woods. The blade is still like new, weight is at least manageable although I can't think for the life of me why I would ever remove it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites